# Technology doesn't work that way - SamuelA's Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420 "2017-12-03T00:52:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 74
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1461 "2019-08-11T17:56:47Z")
If I got this right, SamA came back on the same day Jeffrey Epstein got Barred, right? I’m not sayin’… but I’m definitely _not_ not sayin’, either. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1462 "2019-08-11T18:00:17Z")
Given the brothel touts were standing in the middle of the fucking street asking if passerbys wanted to know where “the girls” were at, I suspect the local Kiev police don’t actually give a shit either, whatever the laws say there. So fuck you. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1463 "2019-08-11T18:02:54Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > If I got this right, SamA came back on the same day Jeffrey Epstein got Barred, right? > > I’m not sayin’… but I’m definitely _not_ not sayin’, either. 😉 So you’re saying that Jeffrey Epistein faked his death and is my account? That would make me a billionaire financier who has managed to evade the law in the ultimate way. Also technically more successful than any other poster here, and able to buy the board itself outright. Amusingly this would also mean I could in fact buy the board, have myself promoted to senior moderator, and ban permanently everyone else in this thread. And then the cheetos would be mine. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1464 "2019-08-11T18:32:58Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > I have category **not** said any of that. And fuck you for the implications. Every sexual partner I have ever had was completely consensual and of legal age. Let’s be clear: **you** raised the implications after boasting about travelling for brothels, and raising the idea. Given your history here, I think we accurately tie that idea to your personal, private actions. > [@SamuelA](#): > > By the way you are picking at straws, if I pointed out that black men appear to commit violent crimes more often than other racial groups, you will instantly say I’m a KKK member. And a Neo-Nazi because I pointed out in a previous thread, I was suspended for, that the Jewish community in Germany was surely genetically intermixed with the dominant group and thus any concept of “blood purity” was wrong. I wonder how I manage to attend both sets of meetings, lol, surely they occur on the same day. No, I have, and will continue to highlight your racism. I don’t give a rats’ ass whose memberhsip card you carry. > [@SamuelA](#): > > Anyways, fuck you. That’s the **Sammy** spirit! > [@SamuelA](#): > > You can eat your cheetos. Also fuck you about such “foreign travel”. It was completely fucking legal for me to travel to visit women, who reported their ages as 27 and appeared that way in person, from a particular Ukrainian dating website. For your information they didn’t put out until the end of the time I was there and I wandered the city one night and touts showed me to a brothel. Good times and also completely fucking legal by U.S. law. I take this as your substantiated admission that you travel for sex purposes. Brothels are legal in other countries–means nothing for me here. I mock you for your arrogance (and stupidity) in it. > [@SamuelA](#): > > Would they give me a top secret clearance to work on nuclear weapons like you claim to have? Well, maybe not, but a regular employer does not even have the legal ability to pull someone’s travel records and won’t do it. You willing to bet your future employment on that? > [@SamuelA](#): > > They will look at convictions, and I have never been convicted of a crime. I don’t care. It’s probably just a matter of time. Just like here on the SDMB: if you keep dancing in enough minefields, eventually you’ll step on one. Tripler Keep ‘em comin’, **Sammy**! It’s too easy to get under your skin. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1465 "2019-08-11T18:53:23Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > I take this as your substantiated admission that you travel for sex purposes. Brothels are legal in other countries–means nothing for me here. I mock you for your arrogance (and stupidity) in it. > > You willing to bet your future employment on that? It is **legal** to travel for the purpose of sex, so long as the women are 18 or older. Also it is **legal** to break the law in other countries, as far as U.S. law is concerned, with rare exceptions. And finally, it is **legal** , inside the U.S., to travel for the purpose of sex, and to go to a brothel. _Literally_ that is what it means in many cases to “take a trip to Vegas”. You can safely assume that any man unaccompanied by a woman who went to Vegas at least encountered a hooker, even if they didn’t actually partake. And yes, it’s fucking legal to go to the Netherlands, where any reasonable “investigator” is going to safely assume the person who did this might have fucked hookers in the red light district or smoked the Mary Jane or probably both. So fuck you. And I’ll make sure to post my Ukrainian travel photos to my facebook page. Also my coworkers all know I went there. Now, sure, top secret jobs with a polygraph, like you claim to have, yeah, you gotta keep your nose pretty damn clean. Sucks to be you in that respect. (but sure, you have some job security as a result. Just don’t fail the polygraph, remember it’s not a scientifically validated test and it is possible to fail for a crime you didn’t commit.) I’m sure all the Ukraine and Czech Republic and other country’s visas on my passport will fail me on the SF 86. Good times, and worth it. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1466 "2019-08-11T18:59:04Z")
I’m sure all the Ukraine and Czech Republic and other country’s stamps on my passport will fail me on the SF 86. Good times, and worth it. Also if I ever import a foreign wife, guess that would be some disqualifying foreign ties, lol. Worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1467 "2019-08-11T20:49:53Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > I’m sure all the Ukraine and Czech Republic and other country’s stamps on my passport will fail me on the SF 86. Good times, and worth it. Also if I ever import a foreign wife, guess that would be some disqualifying foreign ties, lol. Worth it. It’s really a mystery as to why you have to pay women to have sex with you. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1468 "2019-08-11T21:30:20Z")
I know, right? He’s so charming. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1469 "2019-08-11T22:29:49Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > It is **legal** to travel for the purpose of sex, so long as the women are 18 or older. Also it is **legal** to break the law in other countries, as far as U.S. law is concerned, with rare exceptions. And finally, it is **legal** , inside the U.S., to travel for the purpose of sex, and to go to a brothel. _Literally_ that is what it means in many cases to “take a trip to Vegas”. I never indicated it _wasn’t_ legal to travel for sex. But once I pointed out that it was illegal to travel for _underage_ sex, you reversed course and distanced yourself from that conversation like a rat from a sinking ship. > [@SamuelA](#): > > You can safely assume that any man unaccompanied by a woman who went to Vegas at least encountered a hooker, even if they didn’t actually partake. And yes, it’s fucking legal to go to the Netherlands, where any reasonable “investigator” is going to safely assume the person who did this might have fucked hookers in the red light district or smoked the Mary Jane or probably both. I’ve been in and through Las Vegas dozens of times. I can safely assume you haven’t, and you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. (Hint: prostitution is illegal in Clark County). I don’t think you know what any “reasonable investigator” is going to assume either. > [@SamuelA](#): > > So fuck you. And I’ll make sure to post my Ukrainian travel photos to my facebook page. Also my coworkers all know I went there. Oh noes! A down-on-his-luck li’l snowflake cast more curse words in my general direction! Hey, make sure you post a link here to your Facebook page–if there ain’t pics, it didn’t happen. > [@SamuelA](#): > > Now, sure, top secret jobs with a polygraph, like you claim to have, yeah, you gotta keep your nose pretty damn clean. Sucks to be you in that respect. (but sure, you have some job security as a result. Just don’t fail the polygraph, remember it’s not a scientifically validated test and it is possible to fail for a crime you didn’t commit.) I don’t think you know anything about “top secret jobs with a polygraph.” With your grasp of things, you’ll understand if your opinions are set aside like an old jar of moldy mayonnaise that’s been warmed up in the sun. > [@SamuelA](#): > > I’m sure all the Ukraine and Czech Republic and other country’s visas on my passport will fail me on the SF 86. Good times, and worth it. Yep, you are a winner, _aren’t_ you, you special, _special_ snowflake. Tripler Here’s an opportunity for you to tell us how you’ll train your nanobots to make themselves into a sex doll for you. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1470 "2019-08-11T23:49:01Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > Also it is **legal** to break the law in other countries, as far as U.S. law is concerned, with rare exceptions. Huh? There are plenty of Americans imprisoned overseas for breaking the laws of the host country. There are even American service members\* in foreign prisons. The United States Department of State is quite clear with its warning to United States citizens that it cannot rescue you from your legal travails overseas. So, I’ll have to go with: You’re still full of it. > [@](#): > > And finally, it is **legal** , inside the U.S., to travel for the purpose of sex, and to go to a brothel. Isn’t there some law about crossing state lines for the purpose of having sex with someone under the age of 18? Oh, and brothes aren’t legal in all that many places, nor is prostitution. \*Speaking of American service members, it’s a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice to “frequent prostitutes” (_frequent_ here means _once or more times_). That would tend to negage one’s eligibility for any clearance, let alone a Top Secret. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1471 "2019-08-11T23:59:45Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > I’ve been in and through Las Vegas dozens of times. I can safely assume you haven’t, and you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. (Hint: prostitution is illegal in Clark County). I don’t think you know what any “reasonable investigator” is going to assume either. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a [Temple right there in Las Vegas](https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/temples/details/las-vegas-nevada-temple?lang=eng). I don’t think I’m going out on a limb to say patrons of that temple aren’t prone to visiting hookers. A quick web search also showed me Las Vegas, Nevada has at least one Roman Catholic monastery and/or convent, and at least one Buddhist outfit of the like. I highly doubt the monks and nuns are there for the hookers either. > [@](#): > > I don’t think you know anything about “top secret jobs with a polygraph.” I had a Top Secret clearance for decades. Not once have I ever been administered a polygraph examination. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1472 "2019-08-12T00:10:18Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Huh? There are plenty of Americans imprisoned overseas for breaking the laws of the host country. There are even American service members\* in foreign prisons. The United States Department of State is quite clear with its warning to United States citizens that it cannot rescue you from your legal travails overseas. So, I’ll have to go with: You’re still full of it. > > Isn’t there some law about crossing state lines for the purpose of having sex with someone under the age of 18? Oh, and brothes aren’t legal in all that many places, nor is prostitution. > > \*Speaking of American service members, it’s a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice to “frequent prostitutes” (_frequent_ here means _once or more times_). That would tend to negage one’s eligibility for any clearance, let alone a Top Secret. Please proof read your post. Neither this boards rules nor federal law nor the Kiev police have a prohibition against fucking hookers of legal age. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1473 "2019-08-12T00:15:31Z")
My God! I’ve been doing Vegas wrong all these times! I’ve been solicited by prostitutes more in Bridgeport thsn Vegas. I guess that “shows, some nice food, and a little gambling” is a palooka’s vacation. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1474 "2019-08-12T00:17:20Z")
**Monty** , were you responding to me, or **SamuelA**? 'Cause I trust you a _helluva_ lot more than the kid. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1475 "2019-08-12T00:18:33Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > Please proof read your post. Neither this boards rules nor federal law nor the Kiev police have a prohibition against fucking hookers of legal age. Take your own advice, you [illiterate](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/illiterate) [schmuck](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/schmuck). You clearly typed–and I quoted it for your convenience–that “it is legal to break the law in other countries, as far as U.S. law is concerned, with rare exceptions”. [Evidently](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/evidently) (you might want to click on that link) “rare exceptions” means “damn near always; hope you don’t mind your extended stay overseas getting a striped suntan”. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1476 "2019-08-12T00:23:54Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > **Monty** , were you responding to me, or **SamuelA**? > > 'Cause I trust you a _helluva_ lot more than the kid. I was quoting you because my evidence supports your assertion (read: _reality_) as opposed to the assertion of the schlemiel. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1477 "2019-08-12T00:28:39Z")
Just FYI here: My current United States passport (issued just last year) has this nifty bit in the _Important Information_ pages. > [@](#): > > 1. **AVOID VIOLATING FOREIGN LAWS** Remember, while in a foreign country, you are subject to its laws. ISTM that the US stance on breaking the law overseas is rather clear. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1478 "2019-08-12T00:37:45Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Take your own advice, you [illiterate](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/illiterate) [schmuck](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/schmuck). You clearly typed–and I quoted it for your convenience–that “it is legal to break the law in other countries, as **far as U.S. law is concerned** , with rare exceptions”. This means you can commit all sorts of offenses in other countries, return to the U.S., and you will **not be in trouble with U.S. law**. Now, yeah, if you murder someone, and there’s evidence, that country can ask for and sometimes get extradition. But that’s STILL NOT U.S. LAW PUNISHING YOU! If you go to North Korea, and commit basically ANY CRIME, and escape, the U.S. ISN’T GOING TO DO SHIT. This is because (1) it’s not against U.S. law to commit MOST crimes in North korea (murder, rape, arson…anything but fucking kids!) (2) The U.S. government is going to almost certainly tell North Korea to pound sand with their extradition request, no matter the evidence. Now, sure, in reality you’re going to jail in North Korea and they’ll probably kill you. I’m not saying you have the practical ability to do whatever you want and you would have a pretty hard time escaping. But in countries where it’s obviously fucking legal to do certain things, like pay hookers over the age of 18 for sex or smoke weed or do coke, you can pretty much go there and do this all you fucking want. And you won’t be in trouble with that country’s laws, and you can come back to the U.S., brag about it on social media with photos, and fuck all will happen as far as legal consequences. Oh, and don’t commit acts of piracy. That one’s a special case. High seas piracy, not the digital kind. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1479 "2019-08-12T00:48:14Z")
Good grief, you’re the very definition of stupid. First off, North Korea is not likely to kill you for violating their law (or pretending that you’ve violated their law). So far, they’ve managed to shoot one South Korean tourist dead and abused one American prisoner to the point where he died quite soon after his repatriation. Second, if you want someone to know what you mean, fucking say what you mean instead of saying something that is not what you mean, you moron. Oh, and this bit: > [@](#): > > This means you can commit all sorts of offenses in other countries, return to the U.S., and you will not be in trouble with U.S. law. is pure and utter bullshit (you should have that as your user name). Child sex trafficking laws are not the only extraterritorial laws which apply to United States citizens. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1480 "2019-08-12T00:51:37Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Good grief, you’re the very definition of stupid. First off, North Korea is not likely to kill you for violating their law (or pretending that you’ve violated their law). So far, they’ve managed to shoot one South Korean tourist dead and abused one American prisoner to the point where he died quite soon after his repatriation. > > Second, if you want someone to know what you mean, fucking say what you mean instead of saying something that is not what you mean, you moron. Proofread your fucking posts again then. I said **U.S. law** every time. It’s in your own quote. No shit the North Koreans would kill you, but again, if for whatever reason you somehow escaped, the **U.S.** would be fine with whatever you had done **unless** the North Koreans accused you of high seas piracy or abusing children. And, frankly, the U.S. would still probably just assume those jerks are lying and let you off but that’s besides the point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420.md?page=73) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420.md?page=75)