# Ted Cruz is going on Obamacare. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 24, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899 "2015-03-24T21:42:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/1 "2015-03-24T21:42:23Z")
[Story here.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ted-cruz-obamacare/index.html) He supposedly doesn’t have a choice; As a member of Congress, Obamacare is his only option. As if everyone else is on it for different reasons. Ass hole. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/2 "2015-03-24T21:52:10Z")
> [@](#): > > Cruz denied that there was anything ironic about him going on Obamacare, saying he was simply following the law. > > “I believe we should follow the text of every law, even laws I disagree with,” Cruz told CNN. In the great tradition of Gandhi and MLK, there’s always civil disobedience. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/3 "2015-03-24T21:53:48Z")
At least he’s not pulling a Dick Mack. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/4 "2015-03-24T21:56:09Z")
Looks like that Canadian blood is showing through. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/5 "2015-03-24T21:56:47Z")
Holy shit, what if he likes it?.. But he is bound to try to kill it… but it fights back, gravely wounding him…then it helps him to treat his wounds… ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/6 "2015-03-24T22:19:47Z")
Sure, he has a choice in Cobra or other private insurance. But he’d have to pay for that out of his own pocket, rather than out of the taxpayers’ pockets. Fucking hypocrite. Maybe it’s just me, but his voice makes me want to start throwing shit. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/7 "2015-03-24T22:25:48Z")
No. In my case, rocks. Rocks are more ballistically stable than shit. Targeting is important, a rock thrown at this head might injure, but thrown at his ego, would shatter. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/8 "2015-03-24T22:31:43Z")
He also has the choice of no health insurance at all–something many Americans were forced into pre-Obamacare because of pre-existing conditions or lack of income–a situation most Republicans would like go back to. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/9 "2015-03-24T22:36:57Z")
Hours or minutes before he walks that back? Today, tomorrow at the latest. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/10 "2015-03-24T22:54:21Z")
Do we cover Cuban-Canadians? ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/11 "2015-03-24T22:57:45Z")
Headlines claiming anyone is “going on” Obamacare just fuel the belief that there is a single program (like Medicare or Medicaid) at the heart of “Obamacare”. Cruz is buying health insurance on the open exchange. He’ll have many options to choose from, which his free-market heart should enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/12 "2015-03-24T23:59:25Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > [Story here.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ted-cruz-obamacare/index.html) He supposedly doesn’t have a choice; As a member of Congress, Obamacare is his only option. As if everyone else is on it for different reasons. Ass hole. Why is he an asshole for obeying the law? It’s not reasonable to expect him to just stop having health insurance for himself and his family. I’m “on Obamacare”, whatever that means. I bought insurance thru an exchange because mine went up over 20% last year if I wanted to keep the plan I had. I ended up buying a lesser plan for the same amount I was paying for the better plan and saved myself the 20% increase. It’s still a pretty good plan, just not a great plan (I’ll admit I had what would qualify is a Platinum Plan and now I have a Gold Plan. Not a great hardship, but I prefer that Plan to paying 20% more per year.) ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/13 "2015-03-25T00:49:22Z")
Shit I came here to post this and see I was beaten. I looooooooooooove how he won’t answer whether he will take a subsidy. Love it. Love. It. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/14 "2015-03-25T00:53:27Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > Headlines claiming anyone is “going on” Obamacare just fuel the belief that there is a single program (like Medicare or Medicaid) at the heart of “Obamacare”. > > Cruz is buying health insurance on the open exchange. He’ll have many options to choose from, which his free-market heart should enjoy. Fantastic. Let him explain why Obamacare won’t destroy our nation, see how far that gets him with the GOP nomination. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/15 "2015-03-25T00:54:06Z")
That is sooooooo going to ruin his chances of winning the presidency… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/16 "2015-03-25T01:41:15Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Shit I came here to post this and see I was beaten. > > I looooooooooooove how he won’t answer whether he will take a subsidy. Love it. > > Love. It. He is far too well paid to be eligible. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/17 "2015-03-25T01:50:18Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > That is sooooooo going to ruin his chances of winning the presidency… Ideally, probably shouldn’t, given the circumstances of his employment. But he panders to low-information voters, and “Cruz/ObamaCare” may be all they take away from it. Darn shame about that, but whaddaya gonna do? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/18 "2015-03-25T02:23:37Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Why is he an asshole for obeying the law? It’s not reasonable to expect him to just stop having health insurance for himself and his family. Because he is arguing that it is bad, and he has other choices but isn’t taking them. Being on Obamacare means not taking your employer’s insurance, which is what you had to do before Obamacare. If Obamacare is bad, he should be willing to just take what his job offers him, as that’s what he’d have to do without Obamacare. But he’s not. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/19 "2015-03-25T02:38:59Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Why is he an asshole for obeying the law? It’s not reasonable to expect him to just stop having health insurance for himself and his family. Because the crux of his argument is that people should buy private insurance, rather than getting it through the government, that private insurance is better and cheaper. But now that he needs to choose his insurance, he’s opting to get it through the government. The law doesn’t require him to do this. His wife should have reconsidered quitting her job, and relinquishing her employer-sponsored insurance . . . or gotten a COBRA policy. Millions of people on Obamacare don’t have that option. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899/20 "2015-03-25T03:02:56Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > Because the crux of his argument is that people should buy private insurance, rather than getting it through the government, that private insurance is better and cheaper. But now that he needs to choose his insurance, he’s opting to get it through the government. The law doesn’t require him to do this. > > His wife should have reconsidered quitting her job, and relinquishing her employer-sponsored insurance . . . or gotten a COBRA policy. Millions of people on Obamacare don’t have that option. But the law makes the exchanges the best deal. I might think there would be a BETTER deal if the law didn’t exist, but those deals aren’t available. This is really stupid, and you should know better. It’s the old: How can you accept Social Security payments if you’re opposed to it? Well, duh… I had to pay into it all my working days whether I agreed with it or not. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-is-going-on-obamacare/715899.md?page=2)