# Ted Cruz Presidential campaign discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 23, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774 "2015-03-23T14:47:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/521 "2016-01-20T00:24:31Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > But what about someone born in one of Her Majesty’s realms and owing allegiance to Her Majesty until he renounced it just a year before running for President? You don’t think that might have got their satin knee-breeches in a knot? 🙂 His allegiance remains unchanged regardless of his opinion on the matter. It is a sworn oath, not to be discarded like wilted lupines or a footman! ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/522 "2016-01-20T21:52:47Z")
[As a Supreme Court clerk, Ted Cruz](http://theweek.com/speedreads/600344/supreme-court-clerk-ted-cruz-obsessed-death-penalty) was [‘obsessed’ with the death penalty](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/us/politics/as-supreme-court-clerk-ted-cruz-made-death-penalty-his-cause.html). > [@](#): > > Lerner also remarked on how Cruz paid special attention to the more grisly details of murders in his memos, rather than summarizing them and moving on to the legal merits of the case as other clerks tended to do. “It was unusual for a Supreme Court clerk to do that,” Lerner said. > > Melissa Hart, who clerked for one of the liberal justices, John Paul Stevens, said Mr. Cruz’s memos on death penalty appeals basically boiled down to “frivolous, meritless, deny,” and added that his writing approach “made a lot of people really angry.” > > Another clerk described Cruz’s style more bluntly as being like a “dime store novel”. … his writing needlessly provoked the death penalty opponents working at the court. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/523 "2016-01-21T00:05:22Z")
Bill Maher got in a great shot on Cruz in his Friday show. “You’re telling me you’re the real American? You’re from Canada and Cuba. You missed America twice!”. Bwahahahaha. Maher also said he “always thought Cruz had the most punchable face” (until he saw Paul Ryan’s at the State of the Union speech…which, no: Cruz’s is still the champ). ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/524 "2016-01-21T09:39:20Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > There are so many better reasons to hate that man. Not to be left behind, the Jesus People have also found a dumb reason to reject him. [He doesn’t tithe.](http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/ted-cruz-faces-questions-about-his-tithing-history#.fajoqOaoo) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/525 "2016-01-22T20:30:20Z")
[Ted Cruz campaign donates water to Flint residents, but through an anti-abortion group that will only give water to people who support their values.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/01/22/cruz-campaign-donates-water-to-flint-but-only-to-people-who-qualify-for-their-generosity/) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/526 "2016-01-22T20:41:16Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Not to be left behind, the Jesus People have also found a dumb reason to reject him. [He doesn’t tithe.](http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/ted-cruz-faces-questions-about-his-tithing-history#.fajoqOaoo) Has tithing always been about charitable giving? I understood it was giving to the church. From the linked article. > [@](#): > > Asked if there was any public record of his charitable giving, he offered to forward an email from his accountant. (He did: the email stated that Huckabee had donated 11.05% of his taxable income in 2014, and 11.82% in 2013.) Since when has tithing been determined by taxable income? Wasn’t it just by total income? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/527 "2016-01-22T21:45:04Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Ted Cruz campaign donates water to Flint residents, but through an anti-abortion group that will only give water to people who support their values.](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/01/22/cruz-campaign-donates-water-to-flint-but-only-to-people-who-qualify-for-their-generosity/) You know how "[Christ, what an asshole" can be used for the caption for any New Yorker cartoon](http://web.archive.org/web/20061121233120/http://modernarthur.com/blog/christwhatanasshole.html)? That can also be used for pretty much anything Ted Cruz does. Because giving water is definitely a good thing, but of course he has to do it in the worst way. > [@running\_coach](#): > > Has tithing always been about charitable giving? I understood it was giving to the church. > > From the linked article. > > Since when has tithing been determined by taxable income? Wasn’t it just by total income? I think tithing covers both church and charitable giving. I don’t remember the Bible saying a specific amount has to go to the church, but it’s very big on giving to the poor and needy, so I think giving to charity would apply there. I don’t know about taxable or total income; as a longtime church goer, I don’t remember that being specified. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/528 "2016-01-22T23:32:44Z")
He’s been endorsed by a leader of what is basically a doomsday cult. > **[Ted Cruz Touts Endorsement From Founder of Christian Doomsday Sect](https://www.mediaite.com/online/ted-cruz-touts-endorsement-from-founder-of-christian-doomsday-sect/)** > > Sen. Ted Cruz announced Thursday that he had reeled in another endorsement from radical Christian extremists -- this one from Mike Bickle, founder of the controversial International House of Prayer (IHOP), who has said that the "gay marriage agenda"... He also claims that he and his family do not have health insurance. > **[Ted Cruz Says He’s No Longer Covered By Health Insurance](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-no-health-insurance)** > > Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) on Thursday told an audience at a campaign stop in Manchester, New Hampshire that he no longer is covered by health insurance, Politico reported. He said his coverage lapsed… ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/529 "2016-01-23T00:42:05Z")
I’m no Cruz fan, but it really bothers me that the party elite are more interested in stopping Cruz than Trump. Maybe they just don’t think Trump can win anyway, but if they are actually more willing to have Trump than Cruz then the party truly is broken. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/530 "2016-01-23T07:39:51Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > He’s been endorsed by a leader of what is basically a doomsday cult. > > [Ted Cruz Touts Endorsement From Founder of Christian Doomsday Sect](http://www.mediaite.com/online/ted-cruz-touts-endorsement-from-founder-of-christian-doomsday-sect/) > > He also claims that he and his family do not have health insurance. > > [Ted Cruz Says He’s No Longer Covered By Health Insurance - TPM – Talking Points Memo](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-no-health-insurance) Wha?? Don’t senators get health plans? ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/531 "2016-01-23T07:48:22Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Wha?? Don’t senators get health plans? That was part of the ACA. Members of Congress and their staffers no longer get government insurance. They need to get it on the exchanges, instead. Cruz used to be covered under his wife’s insurance, but she quit her job to work on his campaign. Since she voluntarily quit, she is not eligible for COBRA coverage. ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/532 "2016-01-23T07:55:29Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > That was part of the ACA. Members of Congress and their staffers no longer get government insurance. They need to get it on the exchanges, instead. > > Cruz used to be covered under his wife’s insurance, but she quit her job to work on his campaign. Since she voluntarily quit, she is not eligible for COBRA coverage. I should add that they do get government subsidies, but only if they buy a Gold level plan on the DC exchange. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/533 "2016-01-23T08:23:39Z")
[Ted Cruz Finds Out He Has Health Insurance After All](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-23/ted-cruz-finds-out-he-has-health-insurance-after-all) > [@](#): > > A campaign spokeswoman said Cruz’s insurance policy was indeed cancelled but that he didn’t realize his provider, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Texas, had automatically transitioned him and his family onto a new policy. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/534 "2016-01-23T08:28:11Z")
I just posted about Ted Cruz in another thread. I’ll repost so Cruzites can check my facts: Ted Cruz strongly opposes [ul][li] Any gay rights[/li][li] women’s right to abortion[/li][li] the Violence Against Women Act[/li][li] any form of amnesty for illegal immigrants[/li][li] any measures making it easier to vote or register to vote[/li][li] green energy[/li][li] Social Security (he wants it privatized)[/li][li] the IRS (he wants it abolished)[/li][li] the Dept. of Education (he wants it abolished)[/li][li] the Federal Reserve system (he wants it “audited”)[/li][li] the “Death Tax” (he wants it abolished)[/li][li] any federal regulations related to energy or the environment.[/li]He thinks people who believe in AGW are “the equivalent of the flat-earthers.” [li] [United Nations Agenda 21](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/13/agenda-21-the-un-conspiracy-that-just-won-t-die.html). (he’s drunk the conspiracy-theory Kool-aid)[/li][/ul] Ted Cruz strongly supports [ul] [li] Capital punishment. (His fellow law clerks were amazed at his focus on deathrow appeals, wallowing in grisly crime details rather than any legal issues.)[/li][li] A “flat tax.”[/li][li] A balanced budget amendment with 2/3 majority required for any tax hike[/li][li] increased military spending (despite the drastically reduced tax revenue :smack: )[/li][li] federal establishments favoring Christian religion[/li][/ul] If Ted Cruz is an “orthodox” Republican I’d hate to imagine what an extremist is like. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/535 "2016-01-23T09:32:29Z")
And some Dems think he’s better than Trump because at least he doesn’t call illegal Mexican immigrants rapists. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/536 "2016-01-23T09:36:13Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > [Ted Cruz Finds Out He Has Health Insurance After All](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-23/ted-cruz-finds-out-he-has-health-insurance-after-all) [Sort of like he only discovered he was Canadian after the press pointed it out back in 2013](http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2013/08/19/ted-cruz-will-renounce-canadian-citizenship.html): > [@](#): > > Sen. Ted Cruz said in a statement Monday he will renounce his Canadian citizenship after a newspaper pointed out that he may still be a dual citizen. According to legal experts, Cruz is technically a citizen of Canada, since he was born there. Perhaps it’s because Cruz may be running for president in 2016 that he wanted to clear the air—even after his spokesman denied the claim. “Now The Dallas Morning News says that I may technically have dual citizenship,” he said. “Assuming that is true, then sure, I will renounce any Canadian citizenship.” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/537 "2016-01-24T00:14:19Z")
Senator Richard Burr (R-North Carolina) says that if Cruz is the Republican nominee, he will support Bernie Sanders. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/538 "2016-01-24T02:30:44Z")
Coming from a place like NC that’s a brave stance. Goin’ big or goin home brave. Time will tell. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/539 "2016-01-24T03:28:01Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > [Ted Cruz Finds Out He Has Health Insurance After All](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-23/ted-cruz-finds-out-he-has-health-insurance-after-all) Maybe that’s the difference between ordinary people and those in his economic class, because I think most people would be concerned about the idea that they might no longer have health insurance. His attitude seemed to be, “Ho hum. I have no health insurance. But I’m not worried.” ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/540 "2016-01-24T21:15:29Z")
I’m not usually one to hold a teenager’s words against him later in life, but [18 year old Ted Cruz](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/ted-cruz-teen-world-domination-218148) is creepy as fuck. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774.md?page=28)