# Ted Cruz Presidential campaign discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 23, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774 "2015-03-23T14:47:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/541 "2016-01-24T21:26:47Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> I’m not usually one to hold a teenager’s words against him later in life, but [18 year old Ted Cruz](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/ted-cruz-teen-world-domination-218148) is creepy as fuck.

Ha, that’s kinda funny, and especially weird hearing his voice out of the skinny teenage version of him, but I wouldn’t hold that video against him. I wouldn’t say he’s especially creepy there, just an obnoxious, sarcastic teenager. There are a lot of instances of him being much more creepy in a more serious way closer to today.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/542 "2016-01-24T21:30:27Z")

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It’s definitely strange that his voice sounds so similar, but I too would not hold the content of his speech there against him now.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/543 "2016-01-24T21:32:13Z")

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I’m not saying this video is the deciding factor in my not voting for Ted Cruz! Just that it’s disconcerting to hear that man’s voice discussing teen tits and world domination!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/544 "2016-01-24T21:47:55Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> I’m not saying this video is the deciding factor in my not voting for Ted Cruz! Just that it’s disconcerting to hear that man’s voice discussing teen tits and world domination!

He was multi-tasking.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/545 "2016-01-24T22:02:10Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> I’m not saying this video is the deciding factor in my not voting for Ted Cruz! Just that it’s disconcerting to hear that man’s voice discussing teen tits and world domination!

It does remind me of his college roommate, who has talked about how terrible Cruz was then:

[1.](https://twitter.com/clmazin/status/686241061329485824)

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> As a freshman, I would get into senior parties because I was Ted’s roommate. OUT OF PITY. He was that widely loathed. It’s his superpower.

[2.](https://twitter.com/clmazin/status/689868775420657665)

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> When I met Ted in 1988, I had no word to describe him, but only because I didn’t speak German. Thank you, Germans, for “Backpfeifengesicht.”

There are many more. It is hilarious. Not a reason to vote one way or the other, but funny.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/546 "2016-01-24T23:13:06Z")

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And so we see the beginning of politics in the ubiquitous-cameras-during-our-youth era. It will be fun (and a lot salacious) to watch.

Not that I’m in any position of celebrity, but I’m real glad I grew up before then.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/547 "2016-01-25T02:42:50Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> It does remind me of his college roommate, who has talked about how terrible Cruz was then:
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> [1.](https://twitter.com/clmazin/status/686241061329485824)
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> [2.](https://twitter.com/clmazin/status/689868775420657665)
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> There are many more. It is hilarious. Not a reason to vote one way or the other, but funny.

“Backpfeifengesicht” is perfect! One does wonder how he managed to rise this high in spite of that.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/548 "2016-01-26T05:37:47Z")

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It’s been about a half day since [Rick Perry announced his endorsement of Cruz](http://news.yahoo.com/rick-perry-endorses-ted-cruz-president-161540436.html;_ylt=AwrSbhCPBKdWL40AgxVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByNWU4cGh1BGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--#), and no comments yet from the SDMB?

_According to sources, Perry stated that he is endorsing Cruz because 1) he is from Texas, 2) he is conservative, and 3)._

😃

Seems like a predictable endorsement, but Perry is weak sauce and a true dimwit, so this does not seem like a good boost for Cruz, especially since they share the same geography and demographic. Perry is delivering voters who are already voting for Cruz.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/549 "2016-01-26T06:53:24Z")

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Compilation of associates who hate Ted Cruz. Mostly Republican.

> **[Is Ted Cruz really an awful, terrible jerk?](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/01/ted-cruz-jerk-hated/)**
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> Well, terms like "pompous asshole" and "backpfeifengesicht" tend to come up.

Josh Marshall of TPM endorses the effort to pen, “the definitive Ted Cruz asshole florilegium (TCAF)”, but adds that, “Here at TPM we’ve opted for an iterative approach, in part because this is our traditional mode of coverage but also because of skepticism about whether, like topics such as ‘democracy’ or ‘modernism’, the literature may simply be too vast to be captured in any single monographic treatment.”  
[http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/an-admirable-effort](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/an-admirable-effort)

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/550 "2016-01-26T07:09:32Z")

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Heh. Love it.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/551 "2016-01-26T07:23:56Z")

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Guys, I’m worried.

Foreign father, check.  
Resented on his own side of the aisle, check.  
Despised almost to the point of dehumanization on the other side of the aisle, check.  
Almost seems to be regarded as vaguely Messianic by his fandom–wait, that’s typical cult of personality, never mind.

Is Ted Cruz the Republican Barack Obama?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/552 "2016-01-26T07:54:56Z")

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Obama isn’t hated by his own party, he’s just not all that respected or feared either.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/553 "2016-01-26T10:40:09Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Obama isn’t hated by his own party, he’s just not all that respected or feared either.

The whole “Oderint dum metuant” thing is more a Republican approach than a Democratic one anyway.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/554 "2016-01-26T11:49:11Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Obama isn’t hated by his own party, he’s just not all that respected or feared either.

He’s probably not feared, but respected? Among Democrats, he’s highly respected – probably _by far_ the most respected living Democratic politician.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/555 "2016-01-26T12:16:50Z")

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The ones left, or the ones now unemployed?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/556 "2016-01-26T13:12:28Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> The ones left, or the ones now unemployed?

All living, Mr. Snarky-Obama-Hater. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/557 "2016-01-26T14:03:25Z")

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More than Bill Clinton? That’s a legitimate question. I’m an Obama supporter, voted for him twice, but I would have thought that Bill was held in higher regard.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/558 "2016-01-26T14:06:59Z")

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Clinton didn’t get much respect either from Congress, but he was able to leverage the fact that Democrats didn’t always agree with him to win Republican support. The man was very skillful at playing both sides.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/559 "2016-01-26T14:51:25Z")

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Bill is more well-liked. But I don’t know about more respected. Say what you want about Obama but there’s never been so much as a rumor that he couldn’t keep it in his pants.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/560 "2016-01-26T15:07:38Z")

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But not respected enough that Democratic leaders won’t put him on mute when he calls.

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