# Ted Cruz Presidential campaign discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 23, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774 "2015-03-23T14:47:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/641 "2016-02-12T16:58:05Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Cruz refuses to repudiate support from a minister who said God sent Hitler to hunt the Jews.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/02/11/3748743/ted-cruz-defends-endorsement-from-pastor-who-believes-hitler-was-hunter-sent-by-god/)

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Cruz campaign pulls ad featuring soft core porn actress.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/ted-cruz-ad-porn-actress-219170?cmpid=sf)

Interesting juxtaposition. Shows where their priorities lie regarding morality-cred.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/642 "2016-02-13T03:03:09Z")

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Okay, so I ran across [this interview](http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/12/politics/ted-cruz-porn-actress-campaign-ad/index.html?eref=rss_latest) with the actress, Amy Lindsay. What’s amusing is that she states that she is a conservative christian Republican. Then she states :

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> This is also the type of person who might be voting in this race. Um, you know it’s not just the white, male, Christian, uh, gun-toting people, it’s people like me, you know, that… that tend to be very fiscally conservative, and, and maybe a little bit more, uh, socially liberal in some of my views that I - that I feel about.

Wait, she does realize that she’s talking about the Cruz campaign here, right?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/643 "2016-02-13T04:07:37Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Okay, so I ran across [this interview](http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/12/politics/ted-cruz-porn-actress-campaign-ad/index.html?eref=rss_latest) with the actress, Amy Lindsay. What’s amusing is that she states that she is a conservative christian Republican. Then she states :
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> Wait, she does realize that she’s talking about the Cruz campaign here, right?

I am perpetually astonished at the level of stupid that exists in this country.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/644 "2016-02-13T06:38:37Z")

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Yeah, it’s pretty ridic. Cruz is a little more libertarian than most of those running now, but he’s also a smarmy evangelical.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/645 "2016-02-13T14:10:10Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> [Somebody tried to perform an exorcism on Ted at one of his rallies.](https://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/hes-possessed-by-a-demon-man-attempts-exorcism-on-ted-cruz-during-campaign-event/)

And the exorcist ended up possessed.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/646 "2016-02-13T20:53:36Z")

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Ted’s wife, Heidi, says her hubby is gonna show us all “the face of god”:

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/647 "2016-02-13T23:35:12Z")

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I kinda feel bad for Ted Cruz now with Scalia’s passing.

It’s his god sworn duty to block everything in the senate so now he has to balance being out campaigning with being able to be in Washington when a vote comes up. No one in the Senate like him so he’s kinda screwed, no one will delay proceedings for him to make it back.

[QUOTE=Ted Cruz]  
Justice Scalia was an American hero. We owe it to him, & the Nation, for the Senate to ensure that the next President names his replacement.  
[/QUOTE]

He has a lot of flight time in his future.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/648 "2016-02-13T23:56:55Z")

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So Ted really thinks Hillary will pick a better replacement than Obama will? How quaint. 😃

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/649 "2016-02-16T16:54:51Z")

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When you scare even Stephen King, you know you’ve got something going for you: [Presidential candidate that puts the fear in horror writer Stephen King](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/02/16/presidential-candidate-puts-fear-in-stephen-king/21313443/)

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/650 "2016-02-17T19:31:27Z")

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Somebody bought [tedcruzforamerica.com](http://tedcruzforamerica.com) and redirected it to the Canadian immigration service.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/651 "2016-02-17T19:36:28Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Somebody bought [tedcruzforamerica.com](http://tedcruzforamerica.com) and redirected it to the Canadian immigration service.

People are trying too hard now.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/652 "2016-02-18T02:03:13Z")

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I love the idea that anyone can prank the whole damn process for the price of a decent restaurant meal. And the whole world gets to know & laugh along.

The opportunities for devilment just boggle. Shame I’m so uncreative.

As long as we don’t get hackers vandalizing official sites. That moves beyond fun into malicious obstruction of something actually pretty important.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/653 "2016-02-19T15:52:48Z")

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I’m far from a Cruz fan, but have no doubt that he is eligible for election to the Presidency. But the Illinois lawsuit challenging that is going forward: [Lawsuit over Ted Cruz's eligibility to run for president heads to court](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/02/19/lawsuit-over-ted-cruzs-eligibility-to-run-for-president-heads-t/21315213/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-23923000)

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/654 "2016-02-19T15:57:11Z")

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I’ve heard some Harvard law professor on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show say he looked into it and started with the supposition that the whole thing was silly and would be easy to prove that Cruz was eligible. The more he dug into it, the more he came around to the other way of thinking and now thinks that he may well not be eligible. Better to have the suit wind its way through the system now than discover that we’ve elected someone ineligible.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/655 "2016-02-19T16:04:19Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’m far from a Cruz fan, but have no doubt that he is eligible for election to the Presidency. But the Illinois lawsuit challenging that is going forward: [News, Politics, Sports, Mail & Latest Headlines - AOL.com](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/02/19/lawsuit-over-ted-cruzs-eligibility-to-run-for-president-heads-t/21315213/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-23923000)

As much as I despise the man, I agree he’s eligible.  
[This article](http://www.vox.com/2016/2/18/11058038/ted-cruz-court?ref=yfp) does point out that Cruz wouldn’t be eligible under the original wording of the Constitution.

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> Cruz is a proud supporter of the conservative legal tradition of constitutional originalism: interpreting the Constitution not by what its words ought to mean today, but by what the Founding Fathers meant as they wrote them in 1787. Cruz is arguably the national politician most closely identified with originalism; he’s certainly the presidential candidate with the closest ties to the conservative legal movement.
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> According to Tribe, constitutional originalism defines “natural born” very narrowly, in a way that would exclude Cruz

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/656 "2016-02-19T18:31:22Z")

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That’s a rich bit of irony, but as we’ve discussed in the Scalia threads, being an Originalist also includes accepting constitutional amendments and congressional acts as original text original to their authors’ intents at the time of their passing.

e.g. the 14th Amendment means today exactly what it’s backers meant when they passed it then.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/657 "2016-02-19T18:49:46Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> But the Illinois lawsuit challenging that is going forward:

[Indiana](http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2016/02/18/cruz-rubio-presidential-candidacies-face-citizenship-challenges-indiana/80560572/) has a challenge being considered by their Election Commission today to both Cruz and Rubio. The Rubio case is about his parents not being citizens when he was born in Florida. :smack:

For those that enjoy occasionally gawking at crazy check out one of the filers in the complaint against Cruz - Bob Kern. He’s a Democrat, a perpetual candidate for Congress (who won a nomination once…to the party’s displeasure), a convicted felon, and he’s a Trump supporter. So much juicy wrongness … 😃

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/658 "2016-02-19T21:45:54Z")

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[Interesting article from 538](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ted-cruz-has-a-huge-math-problem/). The upshot is that the type of states that Cruz has an advantage in (high amounts of Evangelicals) are disproportionately not winner-take-all states. The article posits that this will be a problem for Cruz: it means his opponents for the Republican nomination have better opportunities to pick up piles of delegates in the winner-take-all states, and then as long as they have respectable showings in the Evangelical-heavy states, Cruz won’t be able to make up that big deficit.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/659 "2016-02-19T22:13:47Z")

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A couple of Cruz news items today.

[Ted says the Duck Dynasty guy would be a great ambassador to the UN.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/19/politics/ted-cruz-phil-robertson-un-ambassador/index.html)

[A PAC which supports Cruz is robocalling South Carolina voters telling them that Trump and Nikki Haley do not support “our”(the Confederate) flag.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ted-cruz-super-pac-defends-confederate-flag-our-flag-south-carolina-robocall)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/660 "2016-02-19T22:24:04Z")

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He (or his team) just loves dirty tricks, doesn’t he/it/them?

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