# Ted Cruz Presidential campaign discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 23, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774 "2015-03-23T14:47:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/781 "2016-03-25T19:31:30Z")

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The Sacramento Bee this morning said that Cruz is having a hard time finding enough Republicans to pledge to him as delegates for the California primary. I would imagine it’s due to a lack of experienced Republican office holders and activists in the state because the Republican Party is so shattered.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/782 "2016-03-25T19:35:25Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> That came out last October. When do you think this hoped for scandal/blow up is going to start?

When it turns out to be hush money.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/783 "2016-03-25T19:47:00Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> When it turns out to be hush money.

You mean to hush the sex scandal? We’ll see what happens but is interesting that 2 of the women involved now seem connected to opposing campaigns.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/784 "2016-03-25T19:51:14Z")

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Trump has always gone on to \*marry \*his mistresses.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/785 "2016-03-25T19:54:05Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> You mean to hush the sex scandal? We’ll see what happens but is interesting that 2 of the women involved now seem connected to opposing campaigns.

Indeed. One of the women worked for the Fiorina campaign, in fact.

I mean, does this explanation for the money transfer make more sense than a simple sex scandal hush money transfer?:

_“Keep the Promise I made the donation in June to Ms. Fiorina at that time because we thought she had important things to say that weren’t being heard, including her poignant and effective criticism of Mrs. Clinton, at the time, the likely Democratic nominee,” Kellyanne Conway, president of Keep the Promise I told CBS News in an email._

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/786 "2016-03-25T19:57:53Z")

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Well “she had important things to say” could easily be seen as code for “we wanted a crowded field”. Gonna need more of a smoking gun than that, istm.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/787 "2016-03-25T20:04:47Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Well “she had important things to say” could easily be seen as code for “we wanted a crowded field”. Gonna need more of a smoking gun than that, istm.

Agreed. I mean, the alternate hypothesis is that Cruz needed someone to spew crazy on Planned Parenthood, and wanted to keep Fiorina in the race. But, it’s a little piece of data that fits in with a sex scandal hypothesis.

Hell, with five women implicated, even if the sex scandal story is 80% BS, he’s still screwed!

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/788 "2016-03-25T20:04:58Z")

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“Let me be clear: Donald Trump may be a rat, but I have no desire to copulate with him.” - Ted Cruz

No shit: that is an actual sentence that Ted Cruz said to the media. What a country!

The crazy thing is, like three months ago Ted Cruz was the \*only \*Republican in the race consistently saying nice things about Drumpf, even holding rallies with him. He would criticize moderators at debates for asking questions about some of the awful things Drumpf said!

ETA: Are we to assume that Cruz ordinarily would have a predilection for copulating with your average rat, just not this one? (Yes, I know what “ratfucking” is, but a lot of his fans might not, and it’s just such a funny thing for him to say.)

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/789 "2016-03-25T20:10:30Z")

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When was the last time a candidate for President called another one a sniveling coward?

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/790 "2016-03-25T20:34:50Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Well “she had important things to say” could easily be seen as code for “we wanted a crowded field”. Gonna need more of a smoking gun than that, istm.

Republicans at the FEC have stymied enforcement, so I agree that legal action won’t be a concern this year. That said, the slush fund transfer provides a convenient fig leaf to discuss the Cuban Mistress Crisis in politer company. If politer company can be located that is.

[https://twitter.com/search?q=%23CubanMistressCrisis&src=typd](https://twitter.com/search?q=%23CubanMistressCrisis&src=typd)

Honestly, sex scandals depress me a little.  
ETA: Fig Leaf: Fig leaf for a rule change before the convention. Late campaign chaos could justify some last minute intervention.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/791 "2016-03-25T21:18:27Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> When was the last time a candidate for President called another one a sniveling coward?

I’m going to guess maybe 1850s? They got pretty wild in the antebellum period.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/792 "2016-03-25T21:23:33Z")

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I’ll go with that. Invective, like storytelling, was an art form in the pre-mass-media days.

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**Author:** ![zoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/71c47a/32.png) [@zoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoo)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/793 "2016-03-25T22:00:03Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> I’m going to guess maybe 1850s? They got pretty wild in the antebellum period.

This post led me to imagine Donald beating Ted silly with a cane.  
Stay tuned

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/794 "2016-03-25T22:13:18Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> “Let me be clear: Donald Trump may be a rat, but I have no desire to copulate with him.” - Ted Cruz
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> ETA: Are we to assume that Cruz ordinarily would have a predilection for copulating with your average rat, just not this one? (Yes, I know what “ratfucking” is, but a lot of his fans might not, and it’s just such a funny thing for him to say.)

That is absolutely the conclusion I drew from Ted’s statement. And I did not know that ‘ratfucking’ had its own [Urban Dictionary entry](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ratfucking) although I should have guessed.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/795 "2016-03-25T22:32:18Z")

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Oh man, it is too hilarious to contemplate the confusion there might be out there from that statement! Now he’s going to have to issue a new statement to clarify, which will surely be a gem of cringe comedy in its own right.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/796 "2016-03-25T22:36:09Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> . . . but Jesus does Trump have any sense of decency?

An occasion for a “Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions” bit if there ever was one.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/797 "2016-03-25T22:38:44Z")

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> [@zoo](#):
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> This post led me to imagine Donald beating Ted silly with a cane.

I prefer to imagine them taking turns.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/798 "2016-03-25T23:58:09Z")

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Trump responds to the National Enquirer smear of Ted Cruz.  
[INDENT][INDENT]I have no idea whether or not the cover story about Ted Cruz in this week’s issue of the National Enquirer is true or not, but I had absolutely nothing to do wiht it, did not know about it, and have not, as yet, read it.  
[/INDENT][/INDENT]  
Trump lies a lot. It’s not clear whether this story reflects beans that Trump threatened to spill on Cruz’s wife. Trump continues:  
[INDENT][INDENT]…Ted Cruz’s problem with the National Enquirer is his and his alone, and while they were right about O.J. Simpson, John Edwards, and many others, I certainly hope they are not right about Lyin’ Ted Cruz.  
[https://twitter.com/jdelreal/status/713436866918412289/photo/1](https://twitter.com/jdelreal/status/713436866918412289/photo/1) [/INDENT][/INDENT] Trump is such a sleazebag. NE has turned out to be right some of the time, but that doesn’t mean they were ever right most of the time. Still, I’d expect him to fan the flames of this story: Donald Trump lives for this stuff.

Vox trudges through the swamp: [The "garbage" story Ted Cruz says "Donald Trump and his henchmen" are spreading, explained - Vox](http://www.vox.com/2016/3/25/11306158/ted-cruz-affair-national-enquirer)

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/799 "2016-03-26T00:04:24Z")

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This story isn’t about Cruz’s wife so this clearly is not the beans he said he would spill about her.

I’d love it if people quit linking twitter feeds, btw. If that’s your best link it’s probably not worth linking with the obvious exception that you want to show Trump’s latest crazy tweet.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/800 "2016-03-26T00:06:13Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I’d love it if people quit linking twitter feeds, btw.

😕 Very strange request. Ridiculous, even.

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