# Ted Cruz Presidential campaign discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 23, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774 "2015-03-23T14:47:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/841 "2016-03-28T00:52:30Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I simply refuse to believe more than one woman on this planet would sleep with Ted Cruz. Nice try tabloids. I refuse to believe that even one biological entity in The Galaxy would do it with [Pugsley](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://carboncostume.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/pugsley01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://carboncostume.com/pugsley-addams/&h=400&w=650&tbnid=qt2cm2JgBRlQPM:&tbnh=123&tbnw=200&docid=QC6-fEa8Ir-bUM&itg=1&usg=__Iamv44GNpUHbbwSmtJsMc-oafLY=&ved=0ahUKEwjIut_wk-LLAhVN62MKHRwiDI8QyjcIIg&ei=4n74VsjBD83WjwOcxLD4CA). There again, there may be an organism on [exoplanet Alpha Centauri Bc](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri_Bc), but I wouldn’t count on it. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/842 "2016-03-28T04:11:48Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > I can find it believable that an independent person has a strong interest in sinking Trump, so creates a PAC to take him down, and generates an ad campaign without consulting Cruz’s camp. Sure, it’s possible there is backdoor collusion too, but it isn’t unreasonable that they aren’t connected. Given how sleazy Cruz has been in this campaign (saying that Carson was dropping out when he wasn’t, his campaign flyers, etc), however, it is not unlikely that his campaign does have some connection. > > However, I find it less than credible that Trump has no connection to the National Enquirer piece. His denials are every bit as believable as anything else out of his mouth, as well. “I’ve been hearing rumors, I don’t know if they’re true, but it’s possible Cruz isn’t even a citizen. And Rubio, too. Heck, it sounds like maybe Ben Carson is really not a citizen, either. At least, that’s what I’ve heard, I don’t know.” It’s ironic that Trump calls Cruz “Lyin’ Ted” when he’s a much bigger spinner of falsehoods than Cruz ever hopes to be. > > I can’t tell if Cruz or Trump is the Democrat’s biggest boon in this race. One way or the other, it really feels like the Rupublican party is headed for a splinter. Definitely. I too love Trump’s transparent “that’s just what I have heard” routine. He actually said “All I know is what I read on the Internet”. Were truer words ever spoken? > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Honestly, that has not been my experience. My feed is more like a water cooler filled with preeminent experts and comedians dropping a few partially baked one liners before they get back to their actual work. Also hobbyists. Also folks with a professional interest in social media promotion. > > Thinking back, I suppose I have seen a couple of tweets about these folks’ personal lives. But frankly there are orders of magnitude more of that on this message board. (Not that this is a bad thing necessarily.) [Paul Krugman](https://twitter.com/paulkrugman), who just started tweeting last month, does this on occasion. Sort of. I see that [Neil Gaiman](https://twitter.com/neilhimself) tweeted a pic of his wife and kid in the past week. But most of the material I see isn’t like that. Huh. My political feed is full of great data, presented in a quickly absorbable format, with no filler. Like this: [x.com](https://twitter.com/williamjordann/status/714238597105364992) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/843 "2016-03-28T19:53:11Z")
[Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg, who was fired from the Trump campaign for. among other things, throwing around the N word and calling Obama a “Socialist Marxist Islamo Fascist Nazi Appeaser” (which he was shocked, SHOCKED! that he said), has endorsed Cruz because Trump hasn’t repudiated the KKK.](http://gawker.com/aide-fired-from-trump-campaign-for-being-racist-endorse-1767535959) Um, where do racists draw the line? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/844 "2016-03-29T04:30:17Z")
Wherever they want to… but rarely persuasively. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/845 "2016-03-31T20:12:48Z")
Cruz jokes about running over Trump. [ABC](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ted-cruz-jokes-running-trump-car-jimmy-kimmel/story?id=38045240) > [@](#): > > “I will say, I was watching the early part of the show, and if I were in my car getting ready to reverse and saw Donald in the backup camera, I’m not confident which pedal I’d push,” Cruz said, **jokingly.** Everyone knows Cruz has no sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/846 "2016-03-31T20:56:16Z")
You do realize that in THIS campaign year, if he did run over Trump, it would help his poll numbers and favorability ratings. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/847 "2016-03-31T21:52:29Z")
Man, who the hell ever thought [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K0sRkvX4KE) was a good idea? First of all, he willingly associates himself with two of the most unsavory characters on The Simpsons. But the worst sin is that he mangles all of his quotes in a way that completely removes the joke. I don’t get it, how hard is it not to mangle a quote on a pre-recorded video? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/848 "2016-03-31T22:07:52Z")
I can see Ted as Kang. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/849 "2016-03-31T23:17:32Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > Man, who the hell ever thought [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K0sRkvX4KE) was a good idea? First of all, he willingly associates himself with two of the most unsavory characters on The Simpsons. Some might see that as self-deprecating humor. > [@](#): > > But the worst sin is that he mangles all of his quotes in a way that completely removes the joke. I don’t get it, how hard is it not to mangle a quote on a pre-recorded video? The Mr. Burns and Ned Flanders lines weren’t trying to cite jokes, just him portraying lines from them. The bit with Lisa and Homer seems to be a complete joke segment to me. The Kang segment is kinda weird, but is juxtaposing common politician remarks about looking toward the future, and in that sense works well enough. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/850 "2016-04-04T17:01:52Z")
[Scott Walker endorses Ted Cruz.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/scott-walker-endorses-ted-cruz_us_56fa8dc6e4b0a372181af439?cps=gravity_5059_8282124103345597464) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/851 "2016-04-04T18:00:43Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “…Richard Nixon…”? > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > I don’t agree with all his politics, but he does have interesting things to say. He shares the account with his former press sec Ronald Ziegler. > > He’s a survivor. > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/dick_nixon) I’d take a dead Nixon over a live Trump OR Cruz. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/852 "2016-04-06T22:29:57Z")
[Security adviser to the Cruz campaign says there are no-go zones in Minneapolis where Sharia law prevails and the police are afraid to go.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cruz-adviser-no-go-zones-minneapolis) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/853 "2016-04-06T22:55:05Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Security adviser to the Cruz campaign says there are no-go zones in Minneapolis where Sharia law prevails and the police are afraid to go.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cruz-adviser-no-go-zones-minneapolis) Perfectly true if you substitute “Lutheran” for “Sharia.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/854 "2016-04-06T23:04:33Z")
[If you’re raped, you’re fucked.](http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/cruz-makes-his-case-against-abortion-rape-exception) > [@](#): > > Last year, Marco Rubio raised a few eyebrows when he argued that if a woman is impregnated by a rapist, the government has the authority to force her to take the pregnancy to term, regardless of her wishes. This week, Ted Cruz made clear he has the same position. > > During an interview with Fox News’ Megyn Kelly, the host sought clarification from the Texas senator about this controversial aspect of his platform. From the transcript via Lexis Nexis: ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/855 "2016-04-07T00:27:15Z")
How he hell did we get to the place as a country that these people can say things like this and not be laughed off the stage forever? ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/856 "2016-04-07T00:33:28Z")
Because a sizeable segment of the population agrees with them. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/857 "2016-04-07T00:37:38Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > How he hell did we get to the place as a country that these people can say things like this and not be laughed off the stage forever? It’s a very logical position if you accept the central premise that fetus = living human being with the rights of an individual. I do not accept this premise, being vehemently pro-choice, but it makes more sense to me than the standard no-abortion-except-for-rape/incest position, which is logically inconsistent. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/858 "2016-04-07T00:46:55Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Because a sizeable segment of the population agrees with them. > [@Dr.Drake](#): > > It’s a very logical position if you accept the central premise that fetus = living human being with the rights of an individual. I do not accept this premise, being vehemently pro-choice, but it makes more sense to me than the standard no-abortion-except-for-rape/incest position, which is logically inconsistent. I wasn’t real clear but I was referring to both **Rick kitchen** ’s post ref sharia in St. Paul MN and **running coach** ’s post about rape. Your points ref fetuses are well-taken. Scary, but accurate. But that just moves the question to how such medieval thinking could exist in the populace at large at this late date. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/859 "2016-04-07T04:02:12Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > It’s a very logical position if you accept the central premise that fetus = living human being with the rights of an individual. I do not accept this premise, being vehemently pro-choice, but it makes more sense to me than the standard no-abortion-except-for-rape/incest position, which is logically inconsistent. +1 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/860 "2016-04-07T05:06:10Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Because a sizeable segment of the population agrees with them. It’s hard to take issue with the word like “sizable” since one can justify the term in many ways, however last I checked, a complete ban on all abortions including rape, incest and life of the pregnant person was a minority even among the pro-life movement. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774.md?page=42) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774.md?page=44)