# Ted Cruz Presidential campaign discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 23, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774 "2015-03-23T14:47:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/941 "2016-04-27T01:57:23Z")

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Apologies to Shalmanese. Moving forward I will be careful to refer to the 5th avenue vulgarian as Drumpf, so as to not get anyone in trouble with TPTB.

I kid, I kid.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/942 "2016-04-27T03:36:04Z")

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[Ted Cruz is a drinker.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzRjjkC5RzQ)  
[Proverbs 31:4-5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+31%3A4%2CProverbs+31%3A5&version=NIV)

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> **4** It is not for kings, Lemuel—  
> it is not for kings to drink wine,  
> not for rulers to crave beer,  
> **5** lest they drink and forget what has been decreed,  
> and deprive all the oppressed of their rights.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/943 "2016-04-27T16:15:20Z")

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Cruz is all set to make a “major announcement” in Indiana today and Carly Fiorina was spotted by NBC news cameras in Indianapolis. I guess the plan is to announce her as vice president and create a singularity of unlikableness.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/944 "2016-04-27T16:35:44Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Cruz is all set to make a “major announcement” in Indiana today and Carly Fiorina was spotted by NBC news cameras in Indianapolis. I guess the plan is to announce her as vice president and create a singularity of unlikableness.

I take hope from the fact that they’ve shared a stage before and no one died. That we know of.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/945 "2016-04-27T16:39:15Z")

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Only Cruz can make Fiorina look good.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/946 "2016-04-27T16:53:45Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Cruz is all set to make a “major announcement” in Indiana today and Carly Fiorina was spotted by NBC news cameras in Indianapolis. I guess the plan is to announce her as vice president and create a singularity of unlikableness.

If so, that should finish the job of completely killing his campaign. She’s not someone who is qualified to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency. I can’t imagine what he thinks she brings to the table.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/947 "2016-04-27T17:03:25Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Only Cruz can make Fiorina look good.

Imagine Trump responding to the news by announcing she’s also _his_ pick for VP.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/948 "2016-04-27T17:33:45Z")

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What’s the current standard or average time for announcing your running mate? Seems a little presumptuous to do it this early while so far behind in delegates.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/949 "2016-04-27T17:37:48Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> If so, that should finish the job of completely killing his campaign. She’s not someone who is qualified to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency. I can’t imagine what he thinks she brings to the table.

They believe Hillary is only popular because she’s a woman. They want a woman too, then there’s no reason to vote for Hillary. Same reason Palin was picked 8 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/950 "2016-04-27T17:40:04Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> What’s the current standard or average time for announcing your running mate? Seems a little presumptuous to do it this early while so far behind in delegates.

He’s thinking she’ll give him a boost with women in upcoming primaries. Delusions are a funny thing.

They do make a good couple, though. They are both so unlikable and are seemingly completely oblivious to it.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/951 "2016-04-27T17:41:40Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> They believe Hillary is only popular because she’s a woman. They want a woman too, then there’s no reason to vote for Hillary. Same reason Palin was picked 8 years ago.

Ninjer’d. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/952 "2016-04-27T18:18:26Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> They believe Hillary is only popular because she’s a woman. They want a woman too, then there’s no reason to vote for Hillary. Same reason Palin was picked 8 years ago.

But that’s. . . that’s. . . that’s ridiculous! Even so, accepting that that is their reasoning, there’s got to be 100 Republican women who would be better picks. I suppose they could all have said, “No, I can’t go to the election with you. I have to wash my hair”.

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/953 "2016-04-27T18:27:14Z")

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Cruz’s immediate priority is winning Indiana and I am not sure Fiorina makes much of a difference there. Still it will give him some buzz and presumably she will campaign for him which may help a bit.

There has also been talk of Kasich as VP and I think that could have had a much bigger impact on the primary.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/954 "2016-04-27T18:33:57Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> He’s thinking she’ll give him a boost with women in upcoming primaries. Delusions are a funny thing.

Let’s hold our horses here. He hasn’t announced anything, so while he may think that he must surely know announcing a running mate this early while way behind in the race would be a huge blunder. I can write Trump’s tweet now: "I guess lyin’ Ted Cruz knows the fix is in for him to steal the nomination so Indiana’s vote doesn’t matter. Already chose his running mate from one of the loser candidates. Sad. Crooked and sad.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/955 "2016-04-27T19:13:29Z")

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And the inevitable attack question that’ll be all over facebook and other places;

“Does he even know which restroom she should use?”

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/956 "2016-04-27T19:32:46Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Let’s hold our horses here. He hasn’t announced anything, so while he may think that he must surely know announcing a running mate this early while way behind in the race would be a huge blunder. I can write Trump’s tweet now: "I guess lyin’ Ted Cruz knows the fix is in for him to steal the nomination so Indiana’s vote doesn’t matter. Already chose his running mate from one of the loser candidates. Sad. Crooked and sad.

CNN and other media are reporting it as fact, so I suspect it’s been unofficially leaked at this point.

Cruz doing this now suggests he thinks Fiorina will help in the primaries. That’s surprising to me - she’s not a compelling candidate. Where will she help? California? In a contested convention?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/957 "2016-04-27T19:38:13Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> Cruz doing this now suggests he thinks Fiorina will help in the primaries. That’s surprising to me - she’s not a compelling candidate. Where will she help? California? In a contested convention?

[This article on Vox](http://www.vox.com/2016/4/27/11518232/ted-cruz-vice-president-carly-fiorina) suggests the reasoning may be:

1. To gain some buzz over the next few days, in hopes of winning in Indiana (if Cruz isn’t able to win Indiana, he’s likely toast)

2. For help in California, where she did win a Republican primary for U.S. Senate in 2010.

3. Fiorina’s moment in the sun during her own presidential run was when Trump’s mocking of her backfired, and she was able to (however briefly) put him on the defensive.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/958 "2016-04-27T20:20:00Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> CNN and other media are reporting it as fact, so I suspect it’s been unofficially leaked at this point.
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> Cruz doing this now suggests he thinks Fiorina will help in the primaries. That’s surprising to me - she’s not a compelling candidate. Where will she help? California? In a contested convention?

I’ll believe it when I see it. For now I will assume it’s a trial balloon, or trial zepplin considering how hard it’s being played.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/959 "2016-04-27T20:23:40Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I’ll believe it when I see it. For now I will assume it’s a trial balloon, or trial zepplin considering how hard it’s being played.

He just announced it.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/960 "2016-04-27T20:27:39Z")

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Absolutely hilarious.  
He’s says she understands how to create jobs.

Yeah, somewhere else.

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