# Ted Cruz Presidential campaign discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 23, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774 "2015-03-23T14:47:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/981 "2016-04-28T00:06:14Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Cruz/Fiorina might be the most physically repulsive Presidential ticket in American history. I’m not even kidding. Cruz and Fiorina. Reminds me of the Munsters or Adams family. It’s really a moot point at this stage, but that choice might be even worse than McCain’s in 2008. At least Palin was an unknown quantity in '08. Fiorina has already proven how truly horrible she is on the campaign trail. From Ted’s point of view, she’s a true anti-choicer so that’s in her favor. She also is about as big a liar as he is. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/982 "2016-04-28T00:15:56Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Cruz/Fiorina might be the most physically repulsive Presidential ticket in American history. I’m not even kidding. Yeah, that Nixon/Agnew ticket was _so_ hot. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/983 "2016-04-28T00:24:22Z")
> [@Taber](#): > > Well, she does have experience taking over a sinking ship and getting the blame. That’s charitable. The less charitable way to look at it is she blew another hole in the ship and helicoptered to safety as it sank. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/984 "2016-04-28T01:17:17Z")
This move reeks of desperation. Carly sure didn’t think much of Ted a few months back, but now he’s just the bees knees in her eyes. She should be embarrassed. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/985 "2016-04-28T01:21:35Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > That’s charitable. The less charitable way to look at it is she blew another hole in the ship and helicoptered to safety as it sank. Should be “… golden parachuted to safety as it sank”, but yeah. I don’t really understand this pick. Is it to attract the women voters who are on the fence between Clinton and Cruz - you know, all four of them? Is this Cruz’s move to the center, by nominating a female (oooh! daring!) who is secretly just as batshit righty as he is? Does he think billions of $ilicon Valley dollars are going to come pouring in his coffers now that he’s co-opted one of their own? Maybe they’re going at each other… who knows? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/986 "2016-04-28T03:09:58Z")
Any chance Cruz had to win my vote in the general election he just pissed away. I will not have that utter failure anywhere near the Presidency(referring to Fiorina). ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/987 "2016-04-28T04:12:10Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Are Cruz and Fiorina uglier on the outside or the inside? It’s a close call. It’s an almost impossible call, and I’ll thank you not to ask me how I know. :o ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/988 "2016-04-28T05:25:27Z")
So Carly Fiorina broke into song in the middle of her campaign speech … > **[Carly Fiorina Randomly Burst Into Song After She Became Ted Cruz's Running Mate](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/the-theme-to-david-finchers-zodiac)** > > WHAT. JUST. HAPPENED?! ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/989 "2016-04-28T06:05:53Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > So Carly Fiorina broke into song in the middle of her campaign speech … > > [Carly Fiorina Randomly Burst Into Song After She Became Ted Cruz's Running Mate](http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/the-theme-to-david-finchers-zodiac?utm_term=.reno0PzXB&bffbnews#.rjwVlOebk) The URL buzzfeed chose was a pretty sly jab. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/990 "2016-04-28T09:37:53Z")
I [never understood](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19092089&postcount=116) why Fiorina even ran for president. But her pointless campaign for the presidency was more explicable than _this_. She at least had the excuse of being blinded by her own vanity. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaPickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@BubbaPickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaPickles)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/991 "2016-04-28T13:34:37Z")
Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina would run this country into the ground faster and with much more devastating impact than Bush & Cheney ever dreamed of. A bible-thumping undertaker and H1B loving moron. What a combination! ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/992 "2016-04-28T13:40:31Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Should be “… golden parachuted to safety as it sank”, but yeah. > > I don’t really understand this pick. Is it to attract the women voters who are on the fence between Clinton and Cruz - you know, all four of them? Is this Cruz’s move to the center, by nominating a female (oooh! daring!) who is secretly just as batshit righty as he is? Does he think billions of $ilicon Valley dollars are going to come pouring in his coffers now that he’s co-opted one of their own? Maybe they’re going at each other… who knows? I’m pretty sure it’s much more of a short term plan, because if Cruz doesn’t prevent Trump from getting enough delegates he won’t make it to November. Fiorina did win her primary for Senate in 2010, but I’m having trouble finding out by how much. She then lost the general 42 to 52%. I’m sure he does also have the long term plan in mind, where he thinks it will be easier to dodge attacks on the war on women by pointing to his female running mate. There are probably better female VP candidates he could have chosen, but none with as high name recognition at the moment and who could help him now with the California primary coming up. Cruz would be foolish to think that Silicon Valley dollars will come in, I can’t find that Fiorina raised much money in her Senate race, she spent $5 million of her own. [She was slightly ahead of Christie and Kasich in fundraising for her campaign earlier this year before she dropped out](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/08/carly-fiorina/carly-fiorina-says-her-campaign-has-more-cash-hand/). ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/993 "2016-04-28T14:08:02Z")
Yeah, among people who truly matter in Silicon Valley, poor Carly is just not “our crowd”. She was a hired hand who failed, so see ya later. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/994 "2016-04-28T14:14:51Z")
John Boehner does not endorse Ted Cruz, calls him [“Lucifer in the flesh”](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-04282016-john-boehner-calls-ted-cruz-lucifer-in-the-flesh-1461850156-htmlstory.html). ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/995 "2016-04-28T14:58:21Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > John Boehner does not endorse Ted Cruz, calls him [“Lucifer in the flesh”](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-04282016-john-boehner-calls-ted-cruz-lucifer-in-the-flesh-1461850156-htmlstory.html). And also said that he would vote for Trump in the GE, but would not vote for Cruz. Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/996 "2016-04-28T15:19:20Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > What’s the current standard or average time for announcing your running mate? Seems a little presumptuous to do it this early while so far behind in delegates. I can think of only one other candidate who announced his running mate _before_ winning his party’s nomination, and it didn’t turn out well: [Richard Schweiker - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Schweiker#Vice_Presidential_nomination) > [@Frank](#): > > The Lincoln Presidential Museum in Springfield, Illinois has (or had, I don’t know if it was a permanent or temporary exhibit) a gallery of cartoons mocking Lincoln’s physical appearance. Many of them were beyond caricature, but were simply mean-spirited. > > (I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again: anyone passing near or through Springfield, Illinois should visit the [museum](http://www.lincolnlibraryandmuseum.com/lincoln-museum.htm). It’s really excellent.) Agreed. Well worth a visit. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/997 "2016-04-28T16:19:12Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Yeah, that Nixon/Agnew ticket was _so_ hot. I’ll be in mah bunk. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/998 "2016-04-28T16:26:26Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > John Boehner does not endorse Ted Cruz, calls him [“Lucifer in the flesh”](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-04282016-john-boehner-calls-ted-cruz-lucifer-in-the-flesh-1461850156-htmlstory.html). Sure? I think from Boehner that _is_ an endorsement. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/999 "2016-04-28T16:30:29Z")
Fiorina is a great choice. She can lay off Cruz’s campaign staff. (Okay, I actually cribbed that line from a conservative site. But it made me laugh.) ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1000 "2016-04-28T16:35:29Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I can think of only one other candidate who announced his running mate _before_ winning his party’s nomination, and it didn’t turn out well: [Richard Schweiker - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Schweiker#Vice_Presidential_nomination) > > Agreed. Well worth a visit. Jerry Brown announced he’d select Jesse Jackson as his running mate during the 1992 Democratic primary season. That also didn’t work out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774.md?page=49) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774.md?page=51)