# Ted Cruz Presidential campaign discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 23, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774 "2015-03-23T14:47:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1001 "2016-04-28T16:43:17Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> Sure? I think from Boehner that _is_ an endorsement.

Boehner also called Cruz “a miserable son of a bitch”, which is \*really \*hard to spin positively.

I always knew I liked Boehner.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1002 "2016-04-28T16:51:28Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> It seems the only winning move is not to run.

I think this is why Paul Ryan chose not to run.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1003 "2016-04-28T17:55:48Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Boehner also called Cruz “a miserable son of a bitch”, which is \*really \*hard to spin positively.
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> I always knew I liked Boehner.

Here’s the full quote. Ouch!!

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> Former House Speaker John Boehner offered a rather blunt assessment of Texas Sen. Ted Cruz on Wednesday night.
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> “Lucifer in the flesh,” Boehner said during a talk hosted by Stanford University in Palo Alto, Calif., according to the Stanford Daily. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1004 "2016-04-28T18:04:57Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> John Boehner does not endorse Ted Cruz, calls him [“Lucifer in the flesh”](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-04282016-john-boehner-calls-ted-cruz-lucifer-in-the-flesh-1461850156-htmlstory.html).

Except isn’t Lucifer supposed to be charming?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1005 "2016-04-28T18:07:22Z")

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If Cruz somehow manages to get the nomination, I’m going to to go into business making bumper stickers.

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> “Lucifer in the flesh”  
> “miserable son of a bitch”

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1006 "2016-04-28T18:20:22Z")

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The Daily Show a few weeks back had an amazing guest spot with [Lindsey Graham](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPOOXp3S2UI) where you watch him endorse Ted Cruz through unabashed gritted teeth. It’s some of the most weirdly compelling TV I’ve seen in a long time.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1007 "2016-04-28T18:39:07Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> Except isn’t Lucifer supposed to be charming?

And bring light?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1008 "2016-04-28T18:43:36Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> If Cruz somehow manages to get the nomination, I’m going to to go into business making bumper stickers.

Cruzifer-Fiorina 2016

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1009 "2016-04-28T19:01:28Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> Except isn’t Lucifer supposed to be charming?

But in need of some restraint, IIRC, lest he lay your soul to waste…

If I were on Hilary’s staff, I’d be praying for a miracle to allow Cruz to win the nomination…just think of the commercials they could put together slamming Cruz hard–AND ALL FROM MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY. Oh, it would be wonderful…

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1010 "2016-04-28T19:08:52Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> But in need of some restraint, IIRC, lest he lay your soul to waste…
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> If I were on Hilary’s staff, I’d be praying for a miracle to allow Cruz to win the nomination…just think of the commercials they could put together slamming Cruz hard–AND ALL FROM MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY. Oh, it would be wonderful…

Don’t worry, they have as much, if not more, to play from Republicans slamming Trump. Including his new BFF Christie.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1011 "2016-04-28T19:15:36Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Don’t worry, they have as much, if not more, to play from Republicans slamming Trump. Including his new BFF Christie.

No doubt about that, Procrustus; but the sheer venom and nastiness directed at Cruz is (possibly) unprecedented (Perhaps Andrew Johnson and Radical Republicans, but he was already President).

With Trump it was always more of a disbelieving “I can’t believe that SOB is winning with that made-up sh\*\*”. With Cruz it is intensely personal.

IMHO as always. YMMV.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1012 "2016-04-28T19:24:11Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Here’s the full quote. Ouch!!

“Rather blunt” is journalist-speak for “holy shit I can’t believe he just said that.”

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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1013 "2016-04-28T20:31:13Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> Except isn’t Lucifer supposed to be charming?

That’s why Rep. Peter King [felt](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pete-king-ted-cruz-lucifer) that Boehner was being very unfair . . . to Lucifer.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1014 "2016-04-28T21:28:09Z")

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Satanists are expressing their outrage that Cruz is being compared to Lucifer.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1015 "2016-04-29T03:33:09Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Jerry Brown announced he’d select Jesse Jackson as his running mate during the 1992 Democratic primary season. That also didn’t work out.

Huh. I followed that campaign very closely, and don’t remember that at all. But I see it mentioned here: [Brown blew his best chance for president](http://www.latimes.com/local/politics/la-me-cap-brown-president-20150827-column.html)

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1016 "2016-04-29T03:43:24Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> No doubt about that, Procrustus; but the sheer venom and nastiness directed at Cruz is (possibly) unprecedented (Perhaps Andrew Johnson and Radical Republicans, but he was already President).

Except Johnson was never a Republican. He was a Democrat who ran with Lincoln on a National Union ticket.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1017 "2016-04-29T04:06:12Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Satanists are expressing their outrage that Cruz is being compared to Lucifer.

I heard that Satan sent Cruz a cease-and-desist letter, citing inappropriate use of his name and likeness.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2016, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1018 "2016-04-29T04:34:33Z")

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Well, shit, sometimes _my_ son pisses me off, I don’t sic a bunch of lawyers on him.

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**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1019 "2016-04-29T15:52:33Z")

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Reports that Pence is about to endorse Cruz which would be big news and could make the difference on Tuesday. I think the new few days will be the critical point of the whole primary race.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/1020 "2016-04-29T15:57:50Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I heard that Satan sent Cruz a cease-and-desist letter, citing inappropriate use of his name and likeness.

Wouldn’t that be the other way around?

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