# Ted Cruz Presidential campaign discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 23, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774 "2015-03-23T14:47:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/101 "2015-03-26T01:10:56Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [Like John Cornyn is any better?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cornyn#Political_positions)

He’s less well known than Cruz, which for a Republican is a good thing. And he has a more moderate image, IMHO, whether he’s actually more moderate or not.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/102 "2015-03-26T01:15:44Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> He’s less well known than Cruz, which for a Republican is a good thing. And he has a more moderate image, IMHO, whether he’s actually more moderate or not.

That makes him more electable; it does not make him any better a prospective POTUS.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/103 "2015-03-26T02:00:02Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> He’s less well known than Cruz, which for a Republican is a good thing. And he has a more moderate image, IMHO, whether he’s actually more moderate or not.

He is the Senator from Central Casting, he _looks_ like a Senator in the same way that Romney _looks_ like a President.

About Romney: is it my imagination or has he had _precisely_ the same touch of grey at his temples for about fifteen years now? Where Obama looks like he spent the last six years working in a Fukushima coal mine.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/104 "2015-03-26T02:39:31Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> About Romney: is it my imagination or has he had _precisely_ the same touch of grey at his temples for about fifteen years now? Where Obama looks like he spent the last six years working in a Fukushima coal mine.

That observation has been made regarding every president who entered the White House with any dark hair over the last 50 years. It is a rather stressful job that ages people much faster than any other. Even GWB appeared to age in office.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/105 "2015-03-26T02:45:49Z")

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And yet, somehow, never matured.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/106 "2015-03-26T04:08:10Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He is the Senator from Central Casting, he _looks_ like a Senator in the same way that Romney _looks_ like a President.

Which is to say, not at all.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2015, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/107 "2015-03-26T04:09:46Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> That makes him more electable; it does not make him any better a prospective POTUS.

Yes, but modern US presidential elections, unfortunately, are usually about electability, not about merit as a prospective President.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/108 "2015-03-27T11:36:14Z")

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So Ted Cruz has a [spiffy logo.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/03/25/ted-cruzs-logo-a-burning-flag-al-jazeeras-logo-or-a-pentecostal-church-logo/) Hmmm… he got the idea from Aljazeera?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/109 "2015-03-27T15:50:25Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> So Ted Cruz has a [spiffy logo.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/03/25/ted-cruzs-logo-a-burning-flag-al-jazeeras-logo-or-a-pentecostal-church-logo/) Hmmm… he got the idea from Aljazeera?

I’m not entirely sure why the Post had to pick a picture from that angle so that Cruz looks like he’s doing a lazy Nazi salute.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/110 "2015-04-01T17:17:53Z")

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I like Cruz, but don’t see him going anywhere this year. He’d have been better off establishing himself as a presence in the Senate.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/111 "2015-04-01T18:03:36Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> I like Cruz, but don’t see him going anywhere this year. He’d have been better off establishing himself as a presence in the Senate.

I’m not going to badger you about stuff and get into an argument, but can I ask what you like about him?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/112 "2015-04-01T21:34:04Z")

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I will! Yeah, **astorian** , what the fuck do you _like_ about this malignant rectum?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/113 "2015-04-01T21:44:58Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> I like Cruz, but don’t see him going anywhere this year. He’d have been better off establishing himself as a presence in the Senate.

Oh, he’s\* established \*himself alright. If he waits any longer, both parties will tar and feather him.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/114 "2015-04-01T21:57:17Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Oh, he’s\* established \*himself alright.

Well, [he has](http://www.salon.com/2015/03/26/ted_cruzs_experience_charade_starting_political_fires_isnt_much_of_an_accomplishment/) and [he hasn’t](http://www.salon.com/2015/03/31/ted_cruzs_worst_excuse_ever_this_explanation_of_why_he_misses_committee_hearings_is_a_doozy/).

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/115 "2015-04-01T23:10:56Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> So Ted Cruz has a [spiffy logo.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/03/25/ted-cruzs-logo-a-burning-flag-al-jazeeras-logo-or-a-pentecostal-church-logo/) Hmmm… he got the idea from Aljazeera?

I’d say that it is more suggestive of flag burning than of al Jazeera, but I am certainly open to the possibility that it is based on natural gas.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/116 "2015-04-02T01:45:52Z")

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Looks to me like a flag being burned in Pentecostal tongues of fire powered by clean, efficient natural gas.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/117 "2015-04-14T02:49:41Z")

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Tonight’s (April 13) Rachael Maddow Show had a piece on a major funding source for Cruz, Bob Mercer.  
(I checked her website and tonight’s show wasn’t online as of 10:30PM EST)

Bob, the hedge fund manager of Renaissance Fund, has been dabbling in politics since he first tried to unseat the Congressman responsible for proposing a tax on financial transactions. He’s put hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, into funding the campaign of a nut job in Oregon, Art Robinson, who believes, among other things, that AIDS is a myth and that radioactivity is good for people.

Around 2010 the IRS started looking into the tax calculations of Renaissance Fund and now claims the fund owes $6 Billion in additional federal income taxes.

And Ted Cruz wants to eliminate the IRS. Hmmmm.

Cruz has raised at least some $31 million. One wonders how much from 'ol Bob.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/118 "2015-05-10T20:07:00Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> We can’t elect a President who thinks that compromise, even on small points, is a crime against principle.

Hence, my decree.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/119 "2015-05-11T16:34:25Z")

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I wonder how popular this idea of his will be: [Ted Cruz: Vets Should Sell Cookies For Funding, Like Girl Scouts](http://usatoday.com.co/ted-cruz-vets-should-sell-cookies-for-funding-like-girl-scouts/)

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> Unsatisfied with Cruz’s answer, the next attendee to receive the mic, Sally, who also identified herself as a veteran, asked Senator Cruz to clarify his answer, specifically asking what Cruz plans to do, as president, to help veterans while also balancing the Federal budget, to which Cruz replied with the controversial statement.
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> “We need to make spending cuts that not everyone will be happy with, but we need to come up with solutions that make up for those cuts, too. For instance — and I’m just thinking out loud here — but the Girl Scouts make a lot of money selling cookies each year, and it brings attention to their cause. We’re talking billions and billions of dollars here. That’s an innovative idea right there, and I just came up with it on the spot. That’s what I want to bring to the White House.”
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> “Something like that, selling cookies, would generate billions of dollars for veterans while also connecting them with their friends and neighbors in a new and innovative way,” Cruz later continued, responding to yet another question from an attendee. “Think about the opportunities these veterans would be exposed to. Think about the potential of meeting a new employer, for instance. This idea would raise billions of dollars for vets each year, gives veterans the sort of public attention they deserve, and could open new doors for our nation’s bravest fighting men and women. This would be a golden opportunity for veterans, and for America.”

I would think veterans would be in his base and would be unhappy with this suggestion, but I don’t know overall how the reception would be.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/120 "2015-05-11T16:37:55Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He is the Senator from Central Casting, he _looks_ like a Senator in the same way that Romney _looks_ like a President.
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> About Romney: is it my imagination or has he had _precisely_ the same touch of grey at his temples for about fifteen years now? Where Obama looks like he spent the last six years working in a Fukushima coal mine.

Where do you think those Harry Potter Time-turners got to? I suspect our last several Presidents have been using them to be in about 5 briefings at the same time, hence the unnatural aging.

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