# Ted Cruz Presidential campaign discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 23, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774 "2015-03-23T14:47:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/121 "2015-05-11T16:38:33Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > I wonder how popular this idea of his will be: [Ted Cruz: Vets Should Sell Cookies For Funding, Like Girl Scouts](http://usatoday.com.co/ted-cruz-vets-should-sell-cookies-for-funding-like-girl-scouts/) I think a lot of vets would say “Fucking Obama!” In my opinion vets lean far right and would forgive anything a Republican would say. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/122 "2015-05-11T16:39:18Z")
Gotta be _The Onion_. Too stupid even for Ted Cruz. Besides, he’s got handlers, guys at the ready to staple his lips shut if he even _tried_ to say anything so stupid. ---
**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/123 "2015-05-11T16:52:59Z")
Satire. Story first published in [The National Report](http://nationalreport.net/ted-cruz-vets-sell-cookies-funding-like-girl-scouts/). ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/124 "2015-05-11T16:53:50Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Gotta be _The Onion_. Too stupid even for Ted Cruz. Besides, he’s got handlers, guys at the ready to staple his lips shut if he even _tried_ to say anything so stupid. Ah! Sorry y’all, it wasn’t from the Onion, but it was from another “satirical” site, The National Report, which apparently fooled The USA Today and other sites. It did sound too extreme for Cruz, I should have double checked. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/125 "2015-05-11T16:56:11Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/126 "2015-05-11T16:57:33Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I think a lot of vets would say “Fucking Obama!” In my opinion vets lean far right and would forgive anything a Republican would say. While there is a kernel of truth in your observation, I think it rather unfair or simply ill-informed. Order and hierarchy are essential to military discipline, couldn’t be any other way. When one is firmly taught to respect order and hierarchy, one can hardly be criticized for over-emphasizing its importance. That’s just human. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/127 "2015-05-11T17:07:07Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > Ah! Sorry y’all, it wasn’t from the Onion, but it was from another “satirical” site, The National Report, which apparently fooled The USA Today and other sites. It did sound too extreme for Cruz, I should have double checked. No prob, Bob. As a recovering Texan, I remember how difficult it can be to calibrate the batshit quotient. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/128 "2015-05-11T19:25:29Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > While there is a kernel of truth in your observation, I think it rather unfair or simply ill-informed. Order and hierarchy are essential to military discipline, couldn’t be any other way. When one is firmly taught to respect order and hierarchy, one can hardly be criticized for over-emphasizing its importance. That’s just human. I’m not seeing how leaning far right is respecting order and hierarchy. It’s my simple observation that veterans, particularly Vietnam veterans, are disproportionately right wing Republicans and would instinctively pin any ridiculous statement by say Cruz on Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/129 "2015-05-11T19:38:29Z")
> [@](#): > > Late last month, Bloomberg’s Mark Halperin conducted a cringe-worthy interview with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX). The interview meandered from questions about how Cruz plans to appeal to Latino voters to what appeared to be a series of requests that Cruz, who is Cuban American, prove that he is really, truly, authentically Cuban. By the end of the interview, when Halperin asks Cruz to say a few words “en Español,” one can’t help but think that Cruz had unwittingly wandered into a minstrel show, with Halperin demanding that Cruz perform for an audience. [http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/05/11/3657223/prize-racist-interview-2016-candidate-goes-bloombergs-mark-halperin/](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/05/11/3657223/prize-racist-interview-2016-candidate-goes-bloombergs-mark-halperin/) Of course, if this had happened to a Democrat, the world would be deafened from the cries of outrage. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/130 "2015-05-11T19:46:11Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > [http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/05/11/3657223/prize-racist-interview-2016-candidate-goes-bloombergs-mark-halperin/](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/05/11/3657223/prize-racist-interview-2016-candidate-goes-bloombergs-mark-halperin/) > > Of course, if this had happened to a Democrat, the world would be deafened from the cries of outrage. Mark Halperin is an idiot, no matter who he’s interviewing. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/131 "2015-05-14T15:06:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > He is the Senator from Central Casting, he _looks_ like a Senator in the same way that Romney _looks_ like a President. > > About Romney: is it my imagination or has he had _precisely_ the same touch of grey at his temples for about fifteen years now? Where Obama looks like he spent the last six years working in a Fukushima coal mine. Whereas Ted Cruz looks like the creepy guy you DON’T want at your kid’s birthday party. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/132 "2015-06-04T11:27:28Z")
[Ted Cruz mocks Joe Biden as he prepares to bury his son.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/03/ted-cruz-joe-biden_n_7507284.html) > [@](#): > > According to Detroit News reporter Chad Livengood, Cruz was speaking at a meeting of the Livingston County Republican Party outside Detroit when he mocked Biden. > > “Vice President Joe Biden. You know the nice thing? You don’t need a punch line,” Cruz said. > > … > > Livengood said on Twitter that when he asked Cruz after the event why he joked about Biden, given the timing, Cruz simply “turned and walked away.” Although he later apologized, Cruz pretty much shit his own bed here. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/133 "2015-06-04T11:47:32Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Although he later apologized, Cruz pretty much shit his own bed here. Are you sure you’re not confusing him with Ted Nugent? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/134 "2015-06-04T11:49:06Z")
Nugent wouldn’t have apologized, he’d have blamed Obama for Beau Biden’s death. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/135 "2015-08-17T13:27:18Z")
So, apparently Ted may not be a [US citizen](http://www.examiner.com/article/ted-cruz-must-show-naturalization-papers-to-keep-his-us-senate-seat). Per the article, both of his parents may have been Canadian citizens at the time of his birth. And since he renounced his Canadian citizenship a little bit back, does that make him stateless? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/136 "2015-08-17T15:03:56Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > [Ted Cruz mocks Joe Biden as he prepares to bury his son.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/03/ted-cruz-joe-biden_n_7507284.html) > > Although he later apologized, Cruz pretty much shit his own bed here. Cruz didn’t make a mockery of Beau Biden’s death as much as Biden and his fans have, by spreading the weepy legend that Beau wanted his Dad to run for President. If Joe Biden wants to run for President, let him. But he was a major jerk to wrap his own ambitions in his son’s death. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/137 "2015-08-17T15:49:39Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > So, apparently Ted may not be a [US citizen](http://www.examiner.com/article/ted-cruz-must-show-naturalization-papers-to-keep-his-us-senate-seat). Per the article, both of his parents may have been Canadian citizens at the time of his birth. > > And since he renounced his Canadian citizenship a little bit back, does that make him stateless? Wow, birtherism for Ted Cruz? It is irrelevant what additional citizenships his parents had at the time of his birth. If one parent was an American (and one was), then he, too, is an American citizen. The burden of proof rests on the idea that any American parent _renounced_ their citizenship, presumably in the act of acquiring a second citizenship. I’d like to see a cite that (a) that his mother ever took on Canadian citizenship, and (b) that in doing so, she renounced her US citizenship. Unlike the US, Canada’s oath of citizenship does not require you to state that you relinquish other citizenships. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/138 "2015-08-17T16:00:05Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Cruz didn’t make a mockery of Beau Biden’s death as much as Biden and his fans have, by spreading the weepy legend that Beau wanted his Dad to run for President. > > If Joe Biden wants to run for President, let him. But he was a major jerk to wrap his own ambitions in his son’s death. What is the evidence that Joe Biden spread this “weepy legend” (or if he did, that it’s not true)? ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/139 "2015-08-17T16:41:23Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > Wow, birtherism for Ted Cruz? It is irrelevant what additional citizenships his parents had at the time of his birth. If one parent was an American (and one was), then he, too, is an American citizen. The burden of proof rests on the idea that any American parent _renounced_ their citizenship, presumably in the act of acquiring a second citizenship. I’d like to see a cite that (a) that his mother ever took on Canadian citizenship, and (b) that in doing so, she renounced her US citizenship. Unlike the US, Canada’s oath of citizenship does not require you to state that you relinquish other citizenships. Agreed. I detest the man and would love an excuse to be rid of him, but I decline to stoop to the levels of the birther nuts. If there is actual evidence supporting this claim–as opposed to demanding that he prove it untrue–someone can present it. Until then, I’ll assume it’s more of the same crap. Indeed, the simple fact that no one has done so yet inclines me to think it’s bullshit. You think someone wouldn’t have dug it up, with as many people as he’s pissed off? ---
**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774/140 "2015-08-17T17:02:33Z")
Well, [Orly Taitz](http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2015/04/ted_cruz_orly_taitz_citizen_president.php) still maintains Sen. Cruz is ineligible, along with Sen. Rubio and Gov. Jindal, so at least she is consistent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/715774.md?page=8)