# Ted Cruz says Texas should secede and "take the military" if Democrats "destroy the country **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 10, 2021, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094 "2021-11-10T05:39:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/61 "2021-11-12T00:21:09Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Jabba the Hutt with a beard. When the alternative is the Peewee Herman look, I’m not sure which is better. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/62 "2021-11-12T00:25:48Z")
> [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](#): > > I’d be totally cool with letting Texas secede. Only if the Austin area and points south secede from the secessionists (think West Virginia during the Civil War). I don’t want to have to use my passport to visit Big Bend, the Hill Country and Killen’s Barbecue in Pearland. Ted Cruz & Co. can have Dallas and Amarillo. ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/63 "2021-11-12T01:21:29Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It’s not like they would need anything shipped into or out of those west coast ports, right? Nope. Governor Abbott’s campaign has a video out imploring shippers tired of waiting at the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach to simply take two weeks to sail over to Houston’s container ports. They’re ready and able to unload those containers. Well, except that it takes longer than two weeks to get from LA to Houston. And, since most of the ships in question are too large for the Panama Canal, it takes LOTS longer. Geography is not one of Governor Abbott’s strengths. Of course, it doesn’t really matter. He just hopes that his voters have never encountered a globe. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/64 "2021-11-12T01:23:25Z")
> [@Drum\_God](#): > > He just hopes that his voters have never encountered a globe. - I have. LA to Houston is barely a foot apart. ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/65 "2021-11-12T01:38:09Z")
😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SoToasty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sotoasty/32/2803_2.png) [@SoToasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoToasty)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/66 "2021-11-12T02:00:51Z")
They’re Republicans. They would just resurrect the SWC minus Arkansas, and claim they are better than the SEC and the Big Ten. The big problem would be that they could only come into the US to play if all the players, coaches, and fans were vaccinated. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/67 "2021-11-12T03:46:30Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Ted Cruz & Co. can have Dallas and Amarillo. Dude, _nobody_ deserves Amarillo. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/68 "2021-11-12T03:52:25Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > > [@Jackmannii](#): > > > > Ted Cruz & Co. can have Dallas and Amarillo. > > Dude, _nobody_ deserves Amarillo. - How about [Neil Sedaka](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZbidpjrcq0)? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/69 "2021-11-12T06:22:21Z")
Yeaaaaa… no. Leaper has it correct. If you think the US military would just watch and smile…. Well that’s just special. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/70 "2021-11-12T16:58:50Z")
> [@Drum\_God](#): > > Well, except that it takes longer than two weeks to get from LA to Houston. And, since most of the ships in question are too large for the Panama Canal, it takes LOTS longer. Just put all the stuff on a plane and fly it over to the Gulf, where you can put it on ships already waiting to take it into port. Duh! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/71 "2021-11-12T22:12:23Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Just put all the stuff on a plane and fly it over to the Gulf, where you can put it on ships already waiting to take it into port. Duh! A depressing combination of too much work and not enough ambition. Let’s dig a canal from LA to Houston. Ridiculously over the top, but without all that tedious unloading and loading. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/72 "2021-11-12T22:16:46Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Let’s dig a canal from LA to Houston. Ridiculously over the top, but without all that tedious unloading and loading. - I don’t think those ships can handle the climb over The Rockies. :deadpan: ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/73 "2021-11-12T22:18:27Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I don’t think those ships can handle the climb over The Rockies. > :deadpan: Let me introduce you to my Little Friend. > **[Startup SpinLaunch completes first test flight with wild rocket-flinging...](https://www.space.com/spinlaunch-first-test-flight-success)** > > The alternative rocket system reached 'tens of thousands of feet' in altitude, the company says. ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/74 "2021-11-12T23:08:33Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > How about [Neil Sedaka](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZbidpjrcq0)? Ok that cracks me up. You and I are both old… ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/75 "2021-11-12T23:14:29Z")
I saw a demo of this on Youtube…very cool tech. Where it would really work well is on the Moon for putting up orbital loads off the surface, but I digress from the thread. Anyway, cool link. 🙂 As for the OP, does it matter to any of you that the majority of Texans don’t want to leave the Union? Just curious, as many seem hell bent on giving the state away… ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/76 "2021-11-12T23:15:37Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > If you think the US military would just watch and smile…. Well that’s just special. Who has EVER thought that? But the US military does share technology… Especially with US research facilities. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/77 "2021-11-12T23:23:04Z")
> [@XT](#): > > As for the OP, does it matter to any of you that the majority of Texans don’t want to leave the Union? Just curious, as many seem hell bent on giving the state away… - Then they shouldn’t let “people” like Abbott and Cruz get elected. ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/78 "2021-11-12T23:36:54Z")
Cruz wants to take his state and go away? Man, we have fallen into a wormhole. Suddenly I’m liking shit he says. ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/79 "2021-11-12T23:43:35Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Then they shouldn’t let “people” like Abbott and Cruz get elected. So you think democracy doesn’t work unless it agrees with your ideology? Why did you put “people” in quotes. Your ideology hasn’t worked out very well through most of human history. Good luck thinking the way you do. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094/80 "2021-11-12T23:44:41Z")
So, that would be a ‘no’ then…you don’t care that the majority of Texans don’t want to leave the Union. And, really, this isn’t about that anyway…it’s really about states that elect people you don’t like, right? These people (‘THOSE people’) who thoughtlessly elected someone you dislike and disdain really shouldn’t have any of that choice stuff, since they were so stupid they elected people you don’t like! Out with them! Let them eat cake, or that gods awful Frito pie stuff! 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-cruz-says-texas-should-secede-and-take-the-military-if-democrats-destroy-the-country/954094.md?page=5)