# Ted Haggard's wife responsible for his fall? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 10, 2006, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813 "2006-11-10T02:59:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MerryMagdalen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@MerryMagdalen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MerryMagdalen)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/21 "2006-11-10T10:15:11Z")
Heh. Ted Haggart’s church is “The Gayest Place on Earth” according to this article in our alternative weekly. > **[Ted Haggard's Crystal Cathedral](https://www.thestranger.com/features/2006/11/09/100742/ted-haggards-crystal-cathedral)** > > If you've ever been to New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and have even trace amounts of gaydar, then it probably didn't come as any surprise that founding pastor Ted Haggard turned out to be a meth-fueled queer bag. Despite the... ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/22 "2006-11-10T11:31:27Z")
[QUOTE=Rhubarb] Umm, didn’t you read the quotes upthread? Of course she is, it’s one of the cornerstones of their religion. [/QUOTE] Oooo, maybe that’s it! Maybe she was being “willful” and that’s what gave Haggard teh gay! Huh, maybe feminism **does** cause homosexuality… :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/23 "2006-11-10T11:44:06Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] According to these photos, Mrs. Haggard has hardly “let herself go.” (She probably will not be getting any $10,000 offers from Hugh Hefner, but she appears to be a reasonably attractive 40-something housewife.) [/QUOTE] Well, yeah, but does she put out? I mean, if having an attractive wife flouncing around the house but refusing to submit to your God-given manly urges doesn’t drive a man to gay sex, I don’t know what would. ---
**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/24 "2006-11-10T12:14:22Z")
I think she needs to order a copy of _Bend Over Boyfriend_, a strap-on, and if he asks nice, a tube of lube. “Come on, honey, it’s time to save you from sin with masculine love again! Put that ball-gag in so I don’t have to hear you bitching and whining this time. You know it’s the only way you’re going to be strong enough to lead this family! Driscoll wants at least 20 minutes on the tape this time, so be strong for Jesus.” ---
**Author:** ![cards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@cards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cards)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/25 "2006-11-10T13:37:48Z")
OK, anybody know what Driscoll’s wife looks like? Is he speaking from experience? ---
**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/26 "2006-11-10T13:48:43Z")
[QUOTE=MEBuckner] Well, yeah, but does she put out? I mean, if having an attractive wife flouncing around the house but refusing to submit to your God-given manly urges doesn’t drive a man to gay sex, I don’t know what would. [/QUOTE] They’ve had 5 kids - so she has to have put out at SOME point. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/27 "2006-11-10T13:59:55Z")
[QUOTE=Hamadryad] They’ve had 5 kids - so she has to have put out at SOME point. [/QUOTE] To somebody. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/28 "2006-11-10T14:02:47Z")
[QUOTE=betenoir] Er…wait a minute. I thought that was the ideal…what god intended. Nice Christian heterosexual unions. Now it turns out gay sex is better. [/QUOTE] Well sure. That which is forbidden is always more fun. That’s why they hate it so much. If they didn’t hate it they couldn’t enjoy it. Um… OK, that kind of made sense. I need to go lie down. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/29 "2006-11-10T14:44:59Z")
[QUOTE=Eve] It _is_ all her fault. If she’d had a penis, he never would have had to hire that gay hooker! [/QUOTE] Snort! ---
**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/30 "2006-11-10T15:24:43Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] According to these photos, Mrs. Haggard has hardly “let herself go.” (She probably will not be getting any $10,000 offers from Hugh Hefner, but she appears to be a reasonably attractive 40-something housewife.) [/QUOTE] Looking at those pictures, I have no trouble labelling her quite attractive. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/31 "2006-11-10T16:01:37Z")
“She made me do it” is the worst excuse in the book. Christianity will always find a way to blame the woman. And people wonder why I’m not a Chrstian. ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/32 "2006-11-10T16:10:59Z")
[QUOTE=tagos] To somebody. [/QUOTE] Best laugh all day. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/33 "2006-11-10T16:22:21Z")
[QUOTE=MerryMagdalen] Heh. Ted Haggart’s church is “The Gayest Place on Earth” according to this article in our alternative weekly. > **[Content/Form](https://www.thestranger.com/visual-art/contentform-31691/?oid=100742)** > > DoubleTake at the Experience Music Project [/QUOTE] Oh, holy Christmas. You guys really have to read that article right now, especially you queens - I just about busted a gut. This all sounds like what would happen if I designed a church, or at least that church-themed nightclub/sauna complex I’m always talking about called _Ahh-men!_ Queen, _please!_ ---
**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/34 "2006-11-10T17:05:46Z")
[QUOTE=Rico] I can’t believe this. The [Acts 29 Network](http://www.acts29network.org/) is putting forward the theory that Ted Haggard’s wife may have been responsible for his gay sex encounters. [/QUOTE] Why can’t you believe it? It’s all quite Biblical and started with Adam. When God asked him how come he knew he was naked and what the hell was going on Adam answered, “It was the woman …” ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/35 "2006-11-10T17:22:18Z")
Once the bible-thumpers “correct” his wrongs through the tough-love bootcamp brainwashing sessions, he’ll go back to fantasizing about men while he does his wife. All will be well in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/36 "2006-11-10T17:49:09Z")
Ya know, over in Great Debates there’s a thread about “Is Christianity feminizing?” and in conjunction with this thread you have to wonder … what the hell … is going on in some of those churches… ---
**Author:** ![turnbuckle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3e96dc/32.png) [@turnbuckle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/turnbuckle)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/37 "2006-11-10T17:55:46Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] According to these photos, Mrs. Haggard has hardly “let herself go.” [/QUOTE] I’d hit it. ---
**Author:** ![Daffyd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daffyd/32/8923_2.png) [@Daffyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daffyd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/38 "2006-11-10T19:03:13Z")
[QUOTE=matt\_mcl] Oh, holy Christmas. You guys really have to read that article right now, especially you queens - I just about busted a gut. This all sounds like what would happen if I designed a church, or at least that church-themed nightclub/sauna complex I’m always talking about called _Ahh-men!_ Queen, _please!_ [/QUOTE] LOL… That place sounds _FABULOUS_! Sort of what I’m going for in my living room, but on a much larger scale… (OK, maybe not, but _ **girlfriends** _, you got it going on!) Shame about the religion though… _Mary_, you shoulda stopped at the naked black guy… the whole place is just **too** camp now… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![born\_too\_late](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba9def/32.png) [@born\_too\_late](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/born_too_late)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/39 "2006-11-10T19:16:04Z")
Has it struck anyone as ironic that her name is ‘ **Gay** le’? ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-haggards-wife-responsible-for-his-fall/379813/40 "2006-11-10T19:32:17Z")
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