# Ted is Dead **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 26, 2009, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749 "2009-08-26T06:22:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/21 "2009-08-26T14:35:49Z")
Anyone have a link to a transcript of the speech he gave when he took Bobby’s seat? Something about picking up the torch - I can’t find it for the life of me. ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/22 "2009-08-26T14:47:08Z")
> [@Engineer\_Dude](#): > > Maybe so, but I have yet to see any tighty-righties [hoping that he suffered](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=475281). I love the conservative nimbleness of thought and malleability of conviction that allows them at once to celebrate Sen. Kennedy’s passing while remaining butthurt about like remarks from the other side of aisle many years ago. Orwell indeed would be proud. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/23 "2009-08-26T14:51:45Z")
> [@Engineer\_Dude](#): > > Maybe so, but I have yet to see any tighty-righties [hoping that he suffered](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=475281). It’s been three hours. They’ve got time yet. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/24 "2009-08-26T15:13:10Z")
> [@PatriotGrrrl](#): > > I can - he’s dead! > [@Clothahump](#): > > Good riddance to bad rubbish. > > He killed a woman and got away with it because of his name and influence. He should have died in prison and in disgrace. No one has to pretend sadness they’re not feeling, but if you wish to attack Senator Kennedy, pls. take it to the Pit. twickster, MPSIMS moderator ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/25 "2009-08-26T15:55:00Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > I love the conservative nimbleness of thought and malleability of conviction that allows them at once to celebrate Sen. Kennedy’s passing while remaining butthurt about like remarks from the other side of aisle many years ago. Orwell indeed would be proud. Would you be kind enough to point me to the posts by conservatives wishing agonizing pains on Senator Kennedy? Of the sort that many of you liberals, universal philanthropists that you are, wished on Jesse Helms in his last hours? Of course, fresh graves of hated political opponents are an invitation to the dance for both sides, it’s simply that conservatives tend to retain their humanity in so doing and refrain from gleeful visions of their enemies in the throes of agonizing death. Why should that be, I wonder. ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/26 "2009-08-26T16:11:23Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Would you be kind enough to point me to the posts by conservatives wishing agonizing pains on Senator Kennedy? Of the sort that many of you liberals, universal philanthropists that you are, wished on Jesse Helms in his last hours? > > Of course, fresh graves of hated political opponents are an invitation to the dance for both sides, it’s simply that conservatives tend to retain their humanity in so doing and refrain from gleeful visions of their enemies in the throes of agonizing death. Why should that be, I wonder. Ah yes. You simply hate speaking ill of the dead. Unless liberals did it first and you’ve yet to get your digs in. And while we’re trading in generalizations, thank you for showing that there’s no point so obvious that a conservative can’t miss it. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/27 "2009-08-26T16:14:10Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Would you be kind enough to point me to the posts by conservatives wishing agonizing pains on Senator Kennedy? Of the sort that many of you liberals, universal philanthropists that you are, wished on Jesse Helms in his last hours? > > Of course, fresh graves of hated political opponents are an invitation to the dance for both sides, it’s simply that conservatives tend to retain their humanity in so doing and refrain from gleeful visions of their enemies in the throes of agonizing death. Why should that be, I wonder. It isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/28 "2009-08-26T17:23:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It isn’t. It is. Hey, we could do this all day, but let’s pretend we’re on a message board where we can do more than say 'tis and 'taint. [Here’s a mean little example](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9994841&postcount=5) from a thread on Tony Snow’s death. > [@](#): > > I didn’t like him and will not miss him. I’m glad he’s dead. I’m glad it was something as painful and undignified as colon cancer and I hope he suffered. Let’s hope it’s only the beginning for Fox News shills and Bush collaborators alike. Give me something equally nasty from the cons and I’ll admit we’re as vindictive as each other. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/29 "2009-08-26T17:43:25Z")
Read Free Republic sometime, Mr. Pure. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/30 "2009-08-26T18:01:27Z")
“Not as nasty as Freepers!” is not a banner I’d want to rally behind. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/31 "2009-08-26T18:02:34Z")
Check what you yourself wrote in the GD thread, **aldi**. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/32 "2009-08-26T18:03:34Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Read Free Republic sometime, Mr. Pure. I was speaking, as really should have been quite obvious, of the behaviour of the cons and libs _on this board_. Why, I mused, should the liberals be so much more vicious. Hence my request for example posts. But no matter. The fact that you had to look so far afield speaks volumes in itself anyway. ---
**Author:** ![postcards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@postcards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/postcards)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/33 "2009-08-26T18:07:23Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Anyone have a link to a transcript of the speech he gave when he took Bobby’s seat? Something about picking up the torch - I can’t find it for the life of me. Um, Bobby was a senator from New York when he was killed. Ted was the sitting senator from Massachusetts at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/34 "2009-08-26T18:09:46Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Give me something equally nasty from the cons and I’ll admit we’re as vindictive as each other. Well, there’s > [@](#): > > He should have died in prison and in disgrace. from [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=529516) recent thread. ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/35 "2009-08-26T18:18:46Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Good riddance to bad rubbish. > > He killed a woman and got away with it because of his name and influence. He should have died in prison and in disgrace. to be fair, it’s doubtful he would have received a life sentence for manslaughter, even if he’d been a nobody ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/36 "2009-08-26T18:34:11Z")
> [@postcards](#): > > Um, Bobby was a senator from New York when he was killed. Ted was the sitting senator from Massachusetts at the time. Yeah - figured that out a few minutes after posting… I still remember a very rousing ending to a speech he gave that wasn’t “The Dream Shall Never Die” one, either. (Unless it was, in fact, The Dream Shall Never Die speech…) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/37 "2009-08-26T18:39:00Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > I was speaking, as really should have been quite obvious, of the behaviour of the cons and libs _on this board_. Why, I mused, should the liberals be so much more vicious. > > Hence my request for example posts. But no matter. The fact that you had to look so far afield speaks volumes in itself anyway. It’s a left leaning board, so trying to limit things to this board is kind of meaningless. There’s only a handful of conservatives who post here, and very few of them are of the freeper variety. ---
**Author:** ![Diz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/87869e/32.png) [@Diz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diz)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/38 "2009-08-26T18:39:49Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > I was speaking, as really should have been quite obvious, of the behaviour of the cons and libs _on this board_. Why, I mused, should the liberals be so much more vicious. > > Hence my request for example posts. But no matter. The fact that you had to look so far afield speaks volumes in itself anyway. Unless you are claiming that this board is a representative sample of both liberals and conservatives, I don’t know what point you think you’ve made. This is a board with lots of liberals. A few of them are nasty. Boards with lots of conservatives also have nasty people. That’s just the way some people are. This should not be a surprise to anyone. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/39 "2009-08-26T19:19:01Z")
> [@Diz](#): > > Unless you are claiming that this board is a representative sample of both liberals and conservatives, I don’t know what point you think you’ve made. > > This is a board with lots of liberals. A few of them are nasty. Boards with lots of conservatives also have nasty people. That’s just the way some people are. This should not be a surprise to anyone. Yes, yes, quite. I was drawing no large conclusions from this. I simply thought it odd that I could remember not one single example of pain and suffering being wished on a dying liberal. But I take your point, we do have some particularly heartless lefties here. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749/40 "2009-08-26T20:14:08Z")
Ted Kennedy was a champion of [this](http://www.everybodywins.org/index.php?/weblog/2_programs_proven_results/) volunteer program. When I first heard about that program in 2006, I saw the tape (it may be the same one attached to the last tab of this web site; I don’t use ‘Quicktime’) where he not only asked viewers to volunteer their time for the program, but he admitted that he personally volunteered and read to school children at a school near his office over his lunch hour every Tuesday. If I knew nothing else about this man, this most assuredly would be ‘one good thing’. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-is-dead/507749.md?page=3)