# Ted Nugent: "Muslim devils should die" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 2, 2004, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198 "2004-10-02T14:27:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/41 "2004-10-02T22:43:18Z")
Regardless of which ignorant, egotistical celebrity it is, why do people put so much weight onto what they say? I would be happy as a pig in shit if they ALL would shut up. They all have a right to speak I suppose, but what is it about them that makes their opinions so important? It mystifies me. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/42 "2004-10-02T22:44:54Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > No, I’d say this is another example of liberal bias at work. If some liberal do-gooder had said something that stupid, we’d never have heard about it. > > 😃😃😃😃 Which would be a _good_ thing. If people just started ignoring celebrities, maybe they’d all go away. ---
**Author:** ![E72521](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@E72521](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E72521)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/43 "2004-10-02T22:49:52Z")
From the book: > [@](#): > > Eurasia comprises the whole of the northern part of the Europeon and Asiatic landmass, from Portugal to the Bering Strait. Oceania comprises the Americas, the Atlantic islands including the British Isles, Australasia, and the southern portion of Africa. Eastasia, smaller than the others and with a less definite western frontier, comprises China and countries to the south of it, the Japanese islands and a large but fluctuating portion of Manchuria, Mongolia, and Tibet. So, after twenty years, we’re at war with Eurasia and Eastasia 🙂 Oh yeah, **The Nuge** is still a poopy-pants. Too bad there wasn’t a slot open the ANG for him. They could have made a man out of him. **ETF** , its not fair to ask **SA** to make a comparison between a washed up celeb that’s pro-murder and one that’s not. WAR IS PEACE ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/44 "2004-10-02T22:53:02Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Regardless of which ignorant, egotistical celebrity it is, why do people put so much weight onto what they say? I would be happy as a pig in shit if they ALL would shut up. They all have a right to speak I suppose, but what is it about them that makes their opinions so important? It mystifies me. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Great Og, man, do you realize you just agreed with **Starving Artist** AGAIN?!? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/45 "2004-10-02T23:02:42Z")
This is getting to be a habit. Maybe I should pick an argument just to “clear my record” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/46 "2004-10-02T23:10:09Z")
> [@E72521](#): > > **ETF** , its not fair to ask **SA** to make a comparison between a washed up celeb that’s pro-murder and one that’s not. Linda Ronstadt is pro-murder? :eek: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/47 "2004-10-02T23:11:11Z")
Oh, sorry, **E72521**. It was the “washed up” part that threw me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/48 "2004-10-02T23:11:44Z")
Who knows? Last I heard she got fired from her Vegas gig before she got a chance to call for any killings (tongue firmly in cheek). ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/49 "2004-10-02T23:12:00Z")
You’re still ducking, **SA**. ---
**Author:** ![E72521](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@E72521](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E72521)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/50 "2004-10-02T23:26:46Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Linda Ronstadt is pro-murder? :eek: > > 😃 That’s too funny. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/51 "2004-10-02T23:27:34Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > You’re ducking the question, dumpling. Put up or shut up: Is Ted Nugent mouthing off on public affairs as abhorrent to you as Linda Ronstadt? If not, why not? > > 😛😉😛 You do love to try to pin me down, don’t you? You want the truth? I’ll give ya the truth. No, it isn’t as abhorrent. Why, you ask? Well, a couple of reasons. One, no one takes him seriously. I think I have to be honest and say that much of the reason I object to celebrities speaking out politically is that, given I’m opposed to much of what they are in favor of, I’m fearful of their possible influence, particularly in view of the fact that Hollywood outspokenness runs about 99-to-1 liberal. And as I’ve said, it also smacks of conceit and arrogance. In my opinion, while Ronstadt certainly is no heavy-hitter, she certainly has more credibility than Nugent, thus she seems more of a threat. I would equate Nugent as more along the lines of, say, a David Crosby or Hunter S. Thompson…somebody so outrageously out there that no one takes them seriously. And, as I’ve said before, it would be perfectly all right with me if no celebrity were to speak out at all, but if they’re going to, I wouldn’t object nearly so much if the POV expressed were more “fair and balanced.” ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/52 "2004-10-02T23:34:50Z")
A [map](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1984_fictious_world_map.png) of Orwell’s 1984 for anyone interested. ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/53 "2004-10-02T23:34:55Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > You’re ducking the question, dumpling. Put up or shut up: Is Ted Nugent mouthing off on public affairs as abhorrent to you as Linda Ronstadt? If not, why not? > > 😛😉😛 Heh. I’ll go with: Ted and Linda are both borderline insane…but all I hold against Linda is some rather sappy songs. Ted…now, he is just really, really scary on multiple fronts. So while I’d prefer they both shut up, I’d like to see Ted in front of an animal holding a bow and arrow. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/54 "2004-10-02T23:41:50Z")
You’re not gonna get “fair and balanced”. That assumes the “celebrity” knows something. Plenty of them are not even that good at what they do for a living, so expecting them to do any more than to “shut up and look nice” as expecting too much. The very idea that anyone even cares what they say is beyond me. Why should the opinion of Doctor Gorgeousman from As The Stomach Churns have any more credence than what my neightborhood bartender says? What if your garbageman really has all the answers? See what I’m getting at? It isn’t so much what they say, it’s how important people think it is, just because they said it. ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/55 "2004-10-02T23:41:54Z")
> [@Blonde](#): > > I’d like to see Ted in front of an animal holding a bow and arrow. Um, that’s where the animal’s holding the bow and arrow. It’s been WAY too long since I’ve posted, so I’m struggling with my syntax, as it were. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/56 "2004-10-02T23:46:38Z")
Ooh! Ooh! Can I pick the animal? I vote for enraged Kodiak bear. A young one with the speed to close the gap quickly, and the power to tear trees out by the roots. I mean, let’s make it interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/57 "2004-10-02T23:50:31Z")
> [@Blonde](#): > > Um, that’s where the animal’s holding the bow and arrow. It’s been WAY too long since I’ve posted, so I’m struggling with my syntax, as it were. Last night I shot an elephant in my pajamas and how he got in my pajamas I’ll never know. – Grouch Marx 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/58 "2004-10-02T23:55:34Z")
> [@Blonde](#): > > Um, that’s where the animal’s holding the bow and arrow. It’s been WAY too long since I’ve posted, so I’m struggling with my syntax, as it were. I’d like to go on record here as having always been a supporter of the right to arm bears. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/59 "2004-10-02T23:58:06Z")
The problem, you see, **Steve** , is that I don’t have confidence in everyone else not to be influenced. I _know_ I wouldn’t be, but I don’t know about _their_ fans and/or followers. I think a goodly many people are influenced by celebrities they either like or idolize, and that they are certainly susceptible to being persuaded by them to a certain belief or POV that they wouldn’t necessarily have had otherwise. There are a tremendous number of uninformed people out there, and many of them know it themselves. So, out of either laziness or lack of confidence, they look to someone they like or trust to tell them what’s right so they don’t have to try to figure it out for themselves. Everyone knows celebrities influence people; that’s the exact reason they’re put in front of microphones in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198/60 "2004-10-03T00:00:25Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > You do love to try to pin me down, don’t you? Ah, my contumacious turnipseed, you are to me as the [moth](http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/5479/) is to the [lepidopterist.](http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/blues2.htm) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-muslim-devils-should-die/267198.md?page=4)