# Ted Nugent, subhuman mongrel

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 21, 2014, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903 "2014-02-21T19:19:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/41 "2014-02-22T14:37:40Z")

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Using the best evidence available, the finest intelligence, bending over backwards to avoid civilian casualties…he directs the military to continue killing terrorists using drones…5X what Bush did. C’s and R’s cry out to high heaven…"Obama is soft on terrorism! He wants Muslims to take over the US and force us to live by Sharia! DON"T TRUST HIM!!!

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/42 "2014-02-22T16:12:18Z")

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he wants to help Republicans to bring out their inner Ted.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/43 "2014-02-22T16:58:30Z")

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> [@crucible](#):
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> You are one of the many conservatives who would say things the way Nugent says them if you thought it wouldn’t cost your party elections? You are happy he is the one who says them, so you don’t have to? You are happy he says it, and excuse it by saying he has become crazy. If he weren’t crazy, he wouldn’t say it, but you agree with it, you just wouldn’t say it that way…
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> how would you say it, what terms would you use?

I’m no longer a true conservative, but I would say I strongly believe in the second amendment within reason, and that hunting is okay. See? That wasn’t so bad.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/44 "2014-02-22T17:09:11Z")

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> [@crucible](#):
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> One of the recent talking points by the R’s, after a little cozy conference, was that Obama cannot be trusted.
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> To do what? or, not to do what? What evidence do you have that he has violated his oath of office?

Oh, don’t get them started! They’ll have a list, mostly of the wrong things, starting with executive orders and recess appointments.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/45 "2014-02-22T17:11:00Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I’m no longer a true conservative, but I would say I strongly believe in the second amendment within reason, and that hunting is okay. See? That wasn’t so bad.

Gun politics are not really all that important, IMO. All the elements of both Pub/conservative and Dem/liberal politics that are really important, i.e., potentially very harmful or beneficial, are not social but economic.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/46 "2014-02-22T17:28:48Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Great, now I am thinking about hash browns with diced tomatoes.

And garlic! I just had garlic bulbils with my fried eggs and hash browns.

It’s a subhuman delight.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/47 "2014-02-22T17:54:01Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I’m no longer a true conservative, but I would say I strongly believe in the second amendment within reason, and that hunting is okay. See? That wasn’t so bad.

I’m not necessarily insulting **FoieGrasIsEvil** , but among subhuman voters whose stupidity is degrading American politics, the portion whose #1 issue is gun rights is huge. That creatures sentient enough to punch a ballot could be so imbecilic would be laughable, if the electoral consequence of such pathetic misplaced priority weren’t so damaging.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/48 "2014-02-22T18:08:11Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I’m not necessarily insulting **FoieGrasIsEvil** , but among subhuman voters whose stupidity is degrading American politics, the portion whose #1 issue is gun rights is huge. That creatures sentient enough to punch a ballot could be so imbecilic would be laughable, if the electoral consequence of such pathetic misplaced priority weren’t so damaging.

If their #1 is gun rights, pretty good odds #2 is abortion.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/49 "2014-02-22T18:41:56Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> If their #1 is gun rights, pretty good odds #2 is abortion.

Some people have strong religious feelings about abortion. I may disagree, but I respect their feelings. I’m less tolerant of the worship of guns.

BTW, what’s #3 ? Umbrellas? 😃

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/50 "2014-02-22T19:05:12Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I’m not necessarily insulting **FoieGrasIsEvil** , but among subhuman voters whose stupidity is degrading American politics, the portion whose #1 issue is gun rights is huge. That creatures sentient enough to punch a ballot could be so imbecilic would be laughable, if the electoral consequence of such pathetic misplaced priority weren’t so damaging.

It’s certainly not my number one issue at all. When I said upthread that there were views I shared with Mr. Nugent, those were the two! Although I am definitely a lot less vociferous about guns than a crazy person like Nugent is.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/51 "2014-02-22T20:14:32Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Some people have strong religious feelings about abortion. I may disagree, but I respect their feelings. I’m less tolerant of the worship of guns.
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> BTW, what’s #3 ? Umbrellas? 😃

Invisible hands.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/52 "2014-02-23T01:43:04Z")

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Subhuman? Takes one to know one I guess. Ted “Relevent” Nugent, pants shitter…

> **[Patriotic American Ted Nugent Shit His Pants to Avoid the Draft](https://www.gawker.com/5983634/patriotic-american-ted-nugent-shit-his-pants-to-avoid-the-draft)**
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> Guitar-slinging millionaire dipshit Ted Nugent will be attending the State of Union tonight, as the guest of Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman. Nugent—who last year issued a veiled threat to President Obama—says he'll "demilitarize" before he...

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/53 "2014-02-23T18:28:41Z")

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Nugent utters some neo-Nazi race-hater insanity? What’s next, Palin bitching about the “lamestream media”? These morons need new writers, as their irrelevance is showing badly.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/54 "2014-02-23T20:12:08Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> These morons need new writers, as their irrelevance is showing badly.

I’m not sure. As I said early on, you just know that far too many in the audience (local and global) nodded smugly at Butt Nugent’s words.

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/55 "2014-02-23T21:39:27Z")

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> [@lost4life](#):
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> You know who else who used the terms subhuman mongrel?
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> Actually, it fits this time.

Not that anyone cares, but I just realized this statement could be taken as though I was agreeing with Nugent, where it actually means my comparing Nugent to Hitler fits this situation.

Carry on…

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/56 "2014-02-28T06:30:52Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Sorry, Jerry Lee’s marrying a 13-year-old girl and staying with her for 13 years was undoubtedly shocking for the 1950s, but it was hardly a sex crime. And he was a major believer in the institution of marriage, or he wouldn’t have been married seven times. :mad:

Of course, you got to make **allowances** for Jerry, he had these great b-- I’ll stop now.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/57 "2014-02-28T16:56:50Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Subhuman? Takes one to know one I guess. Ted “Relevent” Nugent, pants shitter…  
> [http://gawker.com/5983634/patriotic-american-ted-nugent-shit-his-pants-to-avoid-the-draft](http://gawker.com/5983634/patriotic-american-ted-nugent-shit-his-pants-to-avoid-the-draft)

Like one of the commentors, I have a bit of trouble taking this at face value. I think Ted is dick, but the story seems a bit much to believe.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/58 "2014-02-28T17:15:40Z")

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Just guessing here, **Typo** , but I’m guessing you didn’t turn 18 in 1966? You wouldn’t be a bit surprised.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/59 "2014-02-28T17:23:43Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Just guessing here, **Typo** , but I’m guessing you didn’t turn 18 in 1966? You wouldn’t be a bit surprised.

Came to talk about the draft.

They got a building down New York City, it’s called Whitehall Street,  
Where you walk in, you get injected, inspected, detected, infected,  
Neglected and selected. I went down to get my physical examination one  
Day, and I walked in, I sat down, got good and drunk the night before, so  
I looked and felt my best when I went in that morning. `Cause I wanted to  
Look like the all-American kid from New York City, man I wanted, I wanted  
To feel like the all-, I wanted to be the all American kid from New York,  
And I walked in, sat down, I was hung down, brung down, hung up, and all  
Kinds o’ mean nasty ugly things. And I waked in and sat down and they gave  
Me a piece of paper, said, “Kid, see the psychiatrist, room 604.”

And I went up there, I said, “Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I  
Wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and  
Guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,  
KILL, KILL.” And I started jumpin up and down yelling, “KILL, KILL,” and  
He started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down  
Yelling, “KILL, KILL.” And the sergeant came over, pinned a medal on me,  
Sent me down the hall, said, “You’re our boy.”

Didn’t feel too good about it.

– “Alice’s Restaurant,” Arlo Guthrie

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/60 "2014-02-28T17:29:43Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Like one of the commentors, I have a bit of trouble taking this at face value. I think Ted is dick, but the story seems a bit much to believe.

Well, it looks like after his student deferments ran out, he was [classified](http://message.snopes.com/politics/graphics/nugent.jpg)1-Y and then 4-F. Whether he really got his 1-Y by snorting meth (as he has also claimed) or shitting his pants–or just being pants-shittingly crazy even then–will likely remain a mystery.  
ETA: Ghod bless Barb and Dave.  
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