# Ted Nugent, subhuman mongrel

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 21, 2014, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903 "2014-02-21T19:19:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/61 "2014-02-28T18:18:03Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Came to talk about the draft.
> 
> They got a building down New York City, it’s called Whitehall Street,  
> Where you walk in, you get injected, inspected, detected, infected,  
> Neglected and selected. I went down to get my physical examination one  
> Day, and I walked in, I sat down, got good and drunk the night before, so  
> I looked and felt my best when I went in that morning. `Cause I wanted to  
> Look like the all-American kid from New York City, man I wanted, I wanted  
> To feel like the all-, I wanted to be the all American kid from New York,  
> And I walked in, sat down, I was hung down, brung down, hung up, and all  
> Kinds o’ mean nasty ugly things. And I waked in and sat down and they gave  
> Me a piece of paper, said, “Kid, see the psychiatrist, room 604.”
> 
> And I went up there, I said, “Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I  
> Wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and  
> Guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,  
> KILL, KILL.” And I started jumpin up and down yelling, “KILL, KILL,” and  
> He started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down  
> Yelling, “KILL, KILL.” And the sergeant came over, pinned a medal on me,  
> Sent me down the hall, said, “You’re our boy.”
> 
> Didn’t feel too good about it.
> 
> – “Alice’s Restaurant,” Arlo Guthrie

Kid, have you rehabilitated yourself?

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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/62 "2014-02-28T18:46:06Z")

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[Politifact just did a fact check](http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/feb/27/ted-nugent/ted-nugent-cnn-i-conduct-federal-raids-dea-and-atf/) on some recent claims by Teddy that he has conducted federal raids with the DEA, ATF, FBI and Texas Rangers.

Pants on fire was the verdict. At this point, I really think it’s pathological. I don’t think this pants shitting draft dodger can help himself.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/63 "2014-02-28T18:49:08Z")

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> [@yanceylebeef](#):
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> [Politifact just did a fact check](http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/feb/27/ted-nugent/ted-nugent-cnn-i-conduct-federal-raids-dea-and-atf/) on some recent claims by Teddy that he has conducted federal raids with the DEA, ATF, FBI and Texas Rangers.
> 
> Pants on fire was the verdict. At this point, I really think it’s pathological. I don’t think this pants shitting draft dodger can help himself.

Perhaps the whole thing is some kind of high-level meta-ironic performance art beyond the comprehension of the masses.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/64 "2014-03-01T00:01:01Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Kid, have you rehabilitated yourself?

And can you prove it with 47, 8 by 10 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one is to be used as evidence?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/65 "2014-03-01T00:25:06Z")

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It’s a typical case of American bliiiind justice…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/66 "2014-03-01T05:41:06Z")

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That’s Alice Guthrie, right? Yeah, my parents liked him. Also something called the Dateful Grid.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/67 "2014-03-01T06:20:08Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Also something called the Dateful Grid.

You’re thinking of the Dreadful Gate.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/68 "2014-03-01T12:43:17Z")

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Arlo Guthrie, Ted Nugent, and the Grateful Dead walk into a bar…

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**Author:** ![stolatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@stolatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolatt)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/69 "2014-03-01T15:41:00Z")

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Why oh why does he have to be from Detroit? Can we just have some kind of statewide shunning?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/70 "2014-03-01T17:01:31Z")

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> [@stolatt](#):
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> Why oh why does he have to be from Detroit? Can we just have some kind of statewide shunning?

Maybe they could start calling him the Michigan Madman instead…give Detroit a little distance.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/71 "2014-03-03T16:54:25Z")

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[Ted doubles down.](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/24/ted-nugent-obama-using-health-care-reform-and-irs-to-start-a-race-war-just-like-the-nazis/)

> [@](#):
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> “Do what you want, Ted, but that’s what you mean by that,” [Dennis Miller] said. “I think you mean Nazis unless there’s some goofball jackbooted thugs I don’t know about in a fictional piece, but I think that’s the reference, and they’re not like that, they just stink at running an economy and they’re a little soft on world terror.”
> 
> But that sent Nugent off on a rant.
> 
> “I just don’t agree at all,” he said. “There was an incrementalism to what happened in Germany and other places historically, where they came in slowly, and they started, you know, the power struggle between the different races, and the power struggle between different elements of society, and they incrementally worked their way in.”
> 
> Nugent cited the Affordable Care Act and the alleged IRS targeting of conservative groups for additional scrutiny as his proof.
> 
> “I really believe that what we see with the IRS can be compared accurately and historically to the early maneuvers of people like jack booted thugs, like the brownshirts,” Nugent said. “I really believe that and I think that you are being too soft on them.”
> 
> Miller told him they disagreed on this point, but Nugent continued.
> 
> “I think he really wants to destroy America,” he said. “I think he wants to follow the Saul Alinksy Rules for Radicals book, destroy our economy, have a — I can’t even think of the term right now — but the war between the haves and the have nots, when the haves have because they try really hard and the have nots don’t have because they don’t try as hard.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/72 "2014-03-03T17:08:42Z")

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That’s amazing! Dennis Miller has a job?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/73 "2014-03-03T17:27:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “I think he really wants to destroy America,” he said. “I think he wants to follow the Saul Alinksy Rules for Radicals book, destroy our economy, have a — I can’t even think of the term right now — but the war between the haves and the have nots, _when the haves have because they try really hard and the have nots don’t have because they don’t try as hard_.”

I wonder how well that line is gonna play in Flint Michigan. Or Detroit. Or any manufacturing town that has been hurting for longer than Obama has been in office. Ted seems to think the economy was just fine before we had a black president.

If I may paraphrase his attitude:\*\* You’re all worthless and weak!\*\*

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2014, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/74 "2014-03-31T15:19:41Z")

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[More from Ted.](http://www.salon.com/2014/03/26/ted_nugent_defends_south_african_apartheid_and_using_the_n_word_in_newly_resurfaced_interview/)

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2014, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/75 "2014-04-01T03:19:07Z")

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Some people thought this story was real, until it was pointed out that Freewood Post is a parody website, a la the Onion.

[http://www.freewoodpost.com/2014/03/22/ted-nugent-threatens-suicide-discovering-hes-part-black/](http://www.freewoodpost.com/2014/03/22/ted-nugent-threatens-suicide-discovering-hes-part-black/)

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2014, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-nugent-subhuman-mongrel/681903/76 "2014-04-01T06:19:47Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> That’s amazing! Dennis Miller has a job?

Don’t say that!

He actually used to be really funny. I loved him on Saturday Night Live back in the 80s.

Now, I watch him and it’s just sad. He’s like one of those baseball players who just refuses to retire and the team doesn’t have the hear to cut/bench him so he continues to play as just a shadow of his former self but he refuses to quit because he’s gotten to the point that he can’t go out a loser so he’s determined to have one more good season but he doesn’t have it in him.

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