# teeming masses belief in God

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 25, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teeming-masses-belief-in-god/446895 "2008-04-25T20:40:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teeming-masses-belief-in-god/446895/61 "2008-04-28T03:36:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Voyager]  
My learning is deficient - what is a Dibblist? Does it have anything to do with CMOT Dibbler, and suspicious meat stuffed in wrappers?

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A reference to **MrDibble** I think, and his expressed hostility towards God even if he was real.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teeming-masses-belief-in-god/446895/62 "2008-04-28T09:40:28Z")

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That’s my understanding - although the attribution is unclear, as I’m also an anarchist, and that’s the most extreme rightmost :dubious: point on that line

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**Author:** ![focusonz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9dc877/32.png) [@focusonz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/focusonz)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teeming-masses-belief-in-god/446895/63 "2008-04-28T14:32:33Z")

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Practically all religions proscribe a behavior that is expected to be part of the religion.

[QUOTE=tomndebb]  
Any organization that prohibits a behavior they consider crucial to their existence will not long survive.  
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I apologize the word should be 'prescribe, not ‘proscribe’.

[QUOTE=tomndebb]  
If this were true, it would be possible to identify anyone according to their denomination simply by watching their behavior. Aside from the matter of liturgical practice, I doubt that any such determination is possible. Regardless of religious belief (or lack thereof),

Do you have examples of Protestants behaving in remarkably different ways that Protestant of other denominations, Catholics, Jews, or Muslims?  
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liturgy - a customary repertoire of ideas, phrases, or observances  
fervor - intensity of feeling or expression  
Repertoires can be scaled according to intensity

These liturgies/behaviors are in no particular order.

Native American Religionist 2 – Some smoke peyote  
Mennonite Church USA 23 – ride buckboards  
Jehovah’s Witnesses 2 – Ring your doorbell  
Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod 3, 20 – Don’t play with ouji boards  
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) 15 – some are into polygamy, live in Utah.  
Pentecostal 2 – They like to talk in tongues a lot (channel)  
United Methodist Church 20 – They are into psychology and spiritualism (I like this church the best)  
Evangelical (theologically) 16 - I think these put fishes on their bumpers  
Buddhist 13 – the dot in middle of forehead  
Hindu 13 – have cows running around loose  
nondenominational – these are the ones who have started churches to avoid paying taxes  
Shiite Muslim – they beat themselves with chains 100 million Moqtada al-Sadr is Shiite  
Sunni Muslim – More liberal Muslim 800 million

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teeming-masses-belief-in-god/446895/64 "2008-04-28T16:29:26Z")

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[QUOTE=focusonz]

Buddhist 13 – the dot in middle of forehead  
[…]  
Sunni Muslim – More liberal Muslim  
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Uhhhm, no?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teeming-masses-belief-in-god/446895/65 "2008-04-28T17:02:16Z")

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[QUOTE=MrDibble]  
That’s my understanding - although the attribution is unclear, as I’m also an anarchist, and that’s the most extreme rightmost :dubious: point on that line  
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I think I knew that - but I posted that after a 5.5 hour conference call, and my brain was mush.

So, where do we send our tithes?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teeming-masses-belief-in-god/446895/66 "2008-04-28T17:10:17Z")

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TAke it down to the pub. Every pint raised in my name is a step closer to Heaven!

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teeming-masses-belief-in-god/446895/67 "2008-04-29T05:59:35Z")

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[QUOTE=focusonz]  
These liturgies/behaviors are in no particular order.

Native American Religionist 2 – Some smoke peyote  
Mennonite Church USA 23 – ride buckboards  
Jehovah’s Witnesses 2 – Ring your doorbell  
Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod 3, 20 – Don’t play with ouji boards  
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) 15 – some are into polygamy, live in Utah.  
Pentecostal 2 – They like to talk in tongues a lot (channel)  
United Methodist Church 20 – They are into psychology and spiritualism (I like this church the best)  
Evangelical (theologically) 16 - I think these put fishes on their bumpers  
Buddhist 13 – the dot in middle of forehead  
Hindu 13 – have cows running around loose  
nondenominational – these are the ones who have started churches to avoid paying taxes  
Shiite Muslim – they beat themselves with chains 100 million Moqtada al-Sadr is Shiite  
Sunni Muslim – More liberal Muslim 800 million  
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Mennonites come in multiple flavors. The Mennonite church next door to where I lived 20 years ago had a parking lot that filled up with black Mercedes, BMWs, Buicks, and Cadillacs each Sunday. You might be thinking of the Amish, none of whom, that I am aware, own automobiles.

Far more Christian denominations than the Missouri Synod Lutherans condemn ouija boards.

Mormons live all over North and South America and only a few fringe heretic elements engage in polygamy.

The forehead dot is a Hindu custom, not Buddhist.

Your claim that “nondenominational” equates to tax dodgers is historically wrong and is needlessly insulting (moreso in that it is clearly wrong).

bin Laden and his followers are members of the Wahabbist sect of Sunni Muslims. You just can’t get much more liberal than that.

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At any rate, all you have done is provide a brief (error filled) list of behavioral outliers for various groups. One can hardly take from such a list (even if complete and accurate) any understanding of the group. You originally claimed that you could plot a political graph based on religious characteristic. **Sam Stone** challenged you and this list was your response. How does a prohibition on ouija boards fit in with whether a person will vote for a Democrat or a Republican or a third party candidate? How does such a rule affect their love of country, willingness (or unwillingness) to defend that country, follow its laws, pay its taxes, support wars, support charity, or any of the other possible actions that might affect one’s position on your graph?

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