# Teenage dumbasses who volunteer to get hazed

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenage-dumbasses-who-volunteer-to-get-hazed/173818>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 8, 2003, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenage-dumbasses-who-volunteer-to-get-hazed/173818 "2003-05-08T02:38:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenage-dumbasses-who-volunteer-to-get-hazed/173818/101 "2003-05-16T16:04:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by you with the face \*  
> \*\* Enduring a marathon of pushups in two feet of mud butt-ass naked in the rain, while cruel and unsual, can easily be rationalized as being a handy device in weeding out the boys from the men. \*\*

Though under some circumstances, that specific example could seriously violate the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy 😉 😃

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> \*\*Even under those circumstances, though, humiliation and degradation shouldn’t be the objective. Physical endurance should be.

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right. That’s where the line should be drawn.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenage-dumbasses-who-volunteer-to-get-hazed/173818/102 "2003-05-16T17:13:52Z")

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\*Originally posted by JRDelirious \*  
\*\*Though under some circumstances, that specific example could seriously violate the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy 😉 😃 \*\*

True, true. I found myself getting a bit hot just typing “butt-ass naked” so I could see how that would happen.

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**Author:** ![FairyDust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ccd318/32.png) [@FairyDust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyDust)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenage-dumbasses-who-volunteer-to-get-hazed/173818/103 "2003-05-16T18:57:56Z")

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Charges have been filed against those teens.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenage-dumbasses-who-volunteer-to-get-hazed/173818/104 "2003-05-16T19:11:43Z")

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GOOD. Since they won’t recieve anything more than probation, at worst, (if you believe any of these girls will actually serve time, I’ve got a bridge to sell you) they deserve to at least have to miss their prom and graduation (although, hasn’t prom season passed?) It’s the only form of ACTUAL punishment any of these girls is going to get, unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenage-dumbasses-who-volunteer-to-get-hazed/173818/105 "2003-05-17T07:21:31Z")

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**Brutus,** I must know.

Which frat were/are you a member of?

I have several guesses and I want to see if I’m right. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenage-dumbasses-who-volunteer-to-get-hazed/173818/106 "2003-05-17T11:40:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SnoopyFan \*  
> \*\ ***Brutus,** I must know.
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> Which frat were/are you a member of?
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> I have several guesses and I want to see if I’m right. 🙂 \*\*

Oh, I never joined a frat. Stupid concept, if you ask me 🙂

Seriously, I didn’t. Other then some wine with dinner, I don’t drink. I despise loud music. Drugs? Pot. Once. Hated it. I like my personal environment to be clean and tidy. I don’t like worrying about whether or not some moron is playing with my guns when I am not around. Pretty much eliminated all of the frats that I looked at. Dorm 1st year, apt. after that.

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**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenage-dumbasses-who-volunteer-to-get-hazed/173818/107 "2003-05-17T16:07:43Z")

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They prefer to be called fraternities. You don’t call your country a cunt? Do you? Now that I have said that…  
FRAT! FRAT! FRAT! FRAT!

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenage-dumbasses-who-volunteer-to-get-hazed/173818/108 "2003-05-17T20:31:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Road Rash \*  
> Some of the fraternity hazing incidents I hear about seem to go way beyond male bonding, and well into homo-eroticisism. Elephant walks. Soggy buscuits. Circle jerks. Or into serious fecalphelia (I heard that word on South Park).

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> \*Originally posted by Road Rash \*  
> They prefer to be called fraternities. You don’t call your country a cunt? Do you? Now that I have said that…  
> FRAT! FRAT! FRAT! FRAT! \*\*

You really know almost nothing about fraternities, don’t you?

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> \*Originally posted by Brutus \*  
> Seriously, I didn’t. Other then some wine with dinner, I don’t drink. I despise loud music. Drugs? Pot. Once. Hated it. I like my personal environment to be clean and tidy. I don’t like worrying about whether or not some moron is playing with my guns when I am not around. Pretty much eliminated all of the frats that I looked at. Dorm 1st year, apt. after that.

Any of you guys call me Francis and I’ll kill ya’  
Any of you touch my stuff…I’ll kill ya’.  
And if any of you…homos… touches me…I’ll kill ya’.

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**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenage-dumbasses-who-volunteer-to-get-hazed/173818/109 "2003-05-17T23:48:04Z")

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I was close to a couple of fraternities when in school. They both wanted me to pledge. My grades were low to start, then I missed a bit of school to a car wreck. By the time I had things in order, I was approaching a junior. I went to quit a bit of their parties and was already good friends with many of them. They did party excessively, but I knew a couple of members that drank no alcohol, and the fraternities respected that. I came very close to pledging, but I felt it would be little benefit at the time. Plus, I enjoyed partying, and I felt that it would become a chore.

University of Texas fraternities had a notorious hazing reputation while I was in school. I did not attend UT.

As far as the “fraternity not frat” line. I heard is soooooo many times, and it was as silly the first time as the last.

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