# Teenagers stungun sleeping homeless people

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 11, 2003, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383 "2003-08-11T14:27:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/1 "2003-08-11T14:27:57Z")

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[http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=533&ncid=533&e=12&u=/ap/20030810/ap\_on\_re\_us/stun\_gun\_attacks](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=533&ncid=533&e=12&u=/ap/20030810/ap_on_re_us/stun_gun_attacks)

I hope these kids get what they have coming to them, legally and karmaically. What pieces of shit wastes of carbon.

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/2 "2003-08-11T15:40:43Z")

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Seeing as how they were stupid enough to abandon the video camera and incriminating tapes they took of themselves committing their crimes inside their broken down car, _which was left stalled in front of the local hall of justice_, I’m confident that their lives will continue to be full of surprises. Most of them will probably be rather unpleasant, but they should learn to expect this. The negative karma they have just earned during this little jaunt should last for _years_.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/3 "2003-08-11T16:06:49Z")

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What type of punishment can we hope for?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/4 "2003-08-11T16:47:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by World Eater \*  
> \*\*What type of punishment can we hope for? \*\*

IANAL but I have some experience with the juvenile court system if you know what I mean. 😉

It’s going to depend on their priors. If they don’t have any priors, my guess is that they’ll get community service, probabtion and possibly a fine. You’ve got to fuck up a few times or do something _really_ bad to get locked up as a juvie.

The adult may get a short sentence may also get tagged with contributing to the delinquency of minors which might make it a little tougher on him, but again, it’s probably going to take priors to get him locked up.

If it was up to me, I’d just turn them all loose in that same neighborhood for an evening, give them a ten second head start and then let the homeless guys give chase (armed with their own tazers of course). It would be entertaining _and_ just.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/5 "2003-08-11T17:47:50Z")

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What the hell is wrong with people?

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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/6 "2003-08-11T17:58:19Z")

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The yahoo link imparts only a portion of the story. Try this one:  
[http://www.newsnet5.com/news/2394649/detail.html](http://www.newsnet5.com/news/2394649/detail.html) as the little darlings did more than stun. Read the story-a description borders on being too rude for the Pit.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/7 "2003-08-11T18:01:47Z")

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Holy fuck.

I must have missed the part in the Jackass movie where they stun gunned bums and pissed on them.

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/8 "2003-08-11T18:08:00Z")

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Think of it as Darwinism In Action.

You fuck around with sleeping dogs long enough, you will encounter one that still has one bite left in him.

You wander around screwing with sleeping homeless guys, you will eventually encounter one who suddenly leaps to his feet, begins screaming about the Viet Cong, and hacks your face off with a rusty steak knife.

But, instead, these nice boys are now in the hands of the local police, who will protect them from the crazy dangerous homeless people, as well as protect the harmless homeless people from the jerks with stun guns.

See? Happy ending…

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/9 "2003-08-11T18:11:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by blowero \*  
> \*\*What the hell is wrong with people? \*\*

I’m not sure that they qualify as people. I’m not joking here, I seriously don’t think that they have whatever it is that makes us human.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/10 "2003-08-11T18:13:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wang-Ka \*  
> **You wander around screwing with sleeping homeless guys, you will eventually encounter one who suddenly leaps to his feet, begins screaming about the Viet Cong, and hacks your face off with a rusty steak knife.**

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

I do things ended about as best they could though.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/11 "2003-08-11T18:15:59Z")

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I do _think_ things ended about as …

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**Author:** ![Shaolinrabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Shaolinrabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shaolinrabbit)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/12 "2003-08-11T18:18:43Z")

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First, that’s totally messed up. Second, as to the second news article linked to:

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> Cleveland police arrested the four suspects and confiscated the videotape. Four are juveniles and have been released to their parents, while the 22-year-old suspect remains in custody.

Glad they got all five of those four bastards. Electrocuting people was bad enough, but pissing and crapping on them? First of all, who craps on a person? _How_ would you crap on a person? I’d be afraid of falling over onto the person and into my own crap. Not to mention having the guy come to his senses and snatch my nuts like a Christmas ornament.

I hope the other kids in the neighborhood kick the crap out of these guys…

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**Author:** ![pencilpusher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d6d6ee/32.png) [@pencilpusher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pencilpusher)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/13 "2003-08-11T18:24:51Z")

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Worthless wastes of flesh should be thrown to the sharks.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/14 "2003-08-11T18:58:24Z")

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How about the 22 year old? Will he be looking at some time?

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/15 "2003-08-11T19:12:59Z")

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This thread and the story behind it make me sad. I am trying to tell myself that people have always been this bad (as though that would be a comfort somehow), and that we just have better information access these days but it is hard to not feel that things are getting worse.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/16 "2003-08-11T20:10:20Z")

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[http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/new\_jersey/6330080.htm](http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/new_jersey/6330080.htm)

These kids used a paintball gun. Their victim lost an eye.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/17 "2003-08-11T20:36:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Binarydrone \*  
> \*\*This thread and the story behind it make me sad. I am trying to tell myself that people have always been this bad (as though that would be a comfort somehow), and that we just have better information access these days but it is hard to not feel that things are getting worse. \*\*

I’m sorry to say it, but people have always been this bad. Violence is not a new phemonemon.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/18 "2003-08-11T20:40:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DocCathode \*  
> \*\*[http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/new\_jersey/6330080.htm](http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/new_jersey/6330080.htm)
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> These kids used a paintball gun. Their victim lost an eye. \*\*

That is so fucked.

I almost want to become some vigilante dressed like a hobo. I’m late enough for work everyday though, _without_ being out all night meeting out street justice.

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**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/19 "2003-08-11T20:51:53Z")

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I’m hoping the district attorney enhances their charges due to exposing others to bodily fluids. Many places consider that a crime by itself (when it is not consensual).

These are truly sick and twisted little fucks. I’m hoping their community service consists of cleaning the nastiest and most reeking toilets the judge can find for them, with no air freshener allowed. They need to be on the receiving end of some bodily byproducts. What they really need is to run up against a group of these homeless people when they’re wide awake. There’s little that could be done to them that wouldn’t be fair.

I’ve worked with the homeless and many of them are medically frail from exposure and compromised immune systems. A tasar shock could just as easily have killed one of these innocent people. Each one of the defendants should face multiple assault charges for both the taser and exposure to bodily fluids.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2003, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teenagers-stungun-sleeping-homeless-people/194383/20 "2003-08-11T21:03:29Z")

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I wasn’t aware of the weakened immune systems, pretty scary.

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