# Telephone Sanitizers and Account Execs (forbidden thread for SS Incorrigible) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 17, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029 "2011-03-17T15:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/1 "2011-03-17T15:22:00Z")
Welcome to the Forbidden Snarking & Commentary Thread for Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Incorrigible. Living players and eligible subs please stay out, and no game spoilers! Game thread: [Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Incorrigible - The Game Room - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=600691) This was a fun ruleset the last time it ran, with the public roles of Jailor, Jailor’s Boss, Doc, Tracker, and I Can Change Who’s Got What Role. (Except for that part where I guessed wrong on the final Day.) ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/2 "2011-03-17T17:56:40Z")
So peeker starts off with absolutely meaningless votes. FWIW, votes at game start are always meaningless. At least it wasn’t a claim of VT at the start. I do not like that move, I do not like it Sam-I-Am. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/3 "2011-03-17T18:00:29Z")
How did I miss this thread? I even looked for one before starting the other one. Anyway, **peeker** ’s votes don’t even count, because only 3 are valid. **story** is not a player in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/4 "2011-03-17T18:05:34Z")
Nobody notices the telephone sanitizers – at least not until the plague that starts from a dirty phone. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/5 "2011-03-17T18:31:19Z")
Aw, man, **Scuba** , I was hoping that you were playing the role of Floyd in this one. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/6 "2011-03-17T18:42:19Z")
Gee thanks, **Chronos** – Floyd gets killed first! ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/7 "2011-03-17T19:45:47Z")
And there’s Natlaw, trying the gambit. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/8 "2011-03-17T19:48:40Z")
Not a vanilla claim, though. Just a claim that he is Town (which of course is totally worthless in a game with no lie detector). ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/9 "2011-03-17T20:58:22Z")
Man, I’m kinda sorry I missed the signups for this one. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/10 "2011-03-18T18:32:27Z")
> [@Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Incorrigible](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/140): > > How about this to keep our Captain honest: if he doesn’t have a good candidate by the end of the Day to arrest or release, he should put out an arrest warrant for himself. The Chief then can brig the Captain if needed. That is a terrible idea, see below. > [@](#): > > I don’t think I like it though since outstanding warrants give the mutineers more options to reach their win condition (get someone as Chief, brig a town with outstanding warrant). But this is a good point that I’m surprised no one has mentioned yet: outstanding warrants are seriously anti-Town and any Captain who leaves one out there should be seriously suspect. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/11 "2011-03-18T20:03:53Z")
I’m surprised, with all this talk about the setup, that there haven’t been more people referring back to what actually happened in the first game. IIRC, **Inner Stickler** and **Normal Phase** , at least, were in that one. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/12 "2011-03-18T20:09:57Z")
Which part of SS Insipid, Chronos? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/13 "2011-03-18T22:00:40Z")
Mostly, the same Day 1 discussion in that game also applies to this game, but with the added advantage of seeing how things worked out. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/14 "2011-03-22T14:35:15Z")
So **NAF** stirs up the pot claiming Cracker, and claiming that he’s role-claiming just to get things moving along. On the face of it, I’m inclined to believe NAF’s claim. We had this role in SS Insipid, too. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/15 "2011-03-22T14:48:49Z")
The possible roles are all listed in the setup post. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/16 "2011-03-22T15:09:31Z")
Good point, Tom. NAF could have quoted the setup post. So quoting a role PM is a null tell. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/17 "2011-03-22T15:46:42Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Good point, Tom. NAF could have quoted the setup post. So quoting a role PM is a null tell. Exactly. 😃 I’m a little surprised at the low volume of posts. It’s not like there’s little to talk about–the way the officers and votes work. A few players have discussed it, but most seem to be keeping quiet. I’m hoping that once votes start coming in, players will start to get more rancorous. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/18 "2011-03-22T17:30:34Z")
Total gut feeling: Normal Phase is scum. Anybody else getting that vibe from him? ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/19 "2011-03-22T17:32:57Z")
Actually, you know what? It’s been a while since I’ve seen a game unfold whilst spoiled. Pleo, may I be spoiled please? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/20 "2011-03-22T17:54:55Z")
> [@](#): > > So NAF stirs up the pot claiming Cracker, and claiming that he’s role-claiming just to get things moving along. The claim itself would be enough for me to vote for him, since that’s a risky power for Scum to have, but of very little value to Town. If Scum have a Cracker, then the Brig is worse than useless, since a Scum who gets brigged will just be released. Without that threat, though, Town has something very close to a second lynch (it’s more like a lynch than a Vigging, since even though it’s only two people who actually do it, it’s done completely out in the open). Meanwhile, if Town ever wants to release someone from the Brig, they can just tell the Captain and Chief to do so, and vote for them if they don’t cooperate. As an alternative, Town might brig **NAF** and tell him to release himself, thereby using up the power and ensuring that Scum can’t use it (it’s still only once per game, right?). [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029.md?page=2)