# Telephone Sanitizers and Account Execs (forbidden thread for SS Incorrigible)

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 17, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029 "2011-03-17T15:22:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/21 "2011-03-22T18:00:54Z")

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**Astral** , check your PMs.

The Cracker is single-use, but can’t be used on themself (being blocked by the Brig).

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/22 "2011-03-23T18:01:58Z")

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Oh man. Now we’re up to MULTIPLE unforced Day 1 claims!

It’ll be interesting to see how many claims we have by Dusk.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/23 "2011-03-23T18:31:40Z")

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It’s good to see more back and forth and votes.

I wonder if any officers will use their powers.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/24 "2011-03-23T18:47:45Z")

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ISTM that with all the role claims being thrown around, they should throw someone in the Brig. This will among other things provide for a (temporary) promotion without actually expending the Day’s pro/demotion power.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/25 "2011-03-23T19:26:18Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Total gut feeling: Normal Phase is scum. Anybody else getting that vibe from him?

You’ve played with her before, and you don’t know her gender? Tsk, tsk.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/26 "2011-03-23T20:08:55Z")

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And that, **BigT** , is why I prefer to use Spivak pronouns – I don’t have to worry about what gender a player is.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/27 "2011-03-23T20:51:01Z")

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I try to use the singular “they”. No need to introduce weird pronouns.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/28 "2011-03-24T13:25:04Z")

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**Natlaw** has a good point, that I hope the CO and SC follow up on:  
“Unvote Drain Bead as I said before better to brig lurker/non-participant than to lynch them.”

That’s one option of the brig. Throw em in the box!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/29 "2011-03-24T15:17:32Z")

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> [@Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Incorrigible](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/365):
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> **Unvote glowacks**
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> \*\*Vote fluiddruid \*\*- Voting for someone they “don’t think is necessarily scum”.

Calling it now: Mahaloth is scum.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/30 "2011-03-24T16:06:42Z")

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I just realized that Hal and Tex as CO and SC can throw somebody in the brig to protect someone, such as Hal himself, from being lynched. My first thought was to lock someone up to disrupt the vote. I had wondered if this would protect from a lynching, but it doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/31 "2011-03-24T16:08:32Z")

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I’m pretty sure people in the brig can still be lynched.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/32 "2011-03-24T16:11:27Z")

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I checked. It doesn’t. (You’re just sitting there in the brig, you can’t run away from a lynch mob.)

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/33 "2011-03-24T19:01:28Z")

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So if Hal gets lynched, does the Dr report go to Mahaloth or to Inner? Good for Town if it’s the latter.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/34 "2011-03-24T19:17:52Z")

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As I said in a rules clarification, the results of the examination go to whoever is Doctor immediately before the lynch. (In effect, the results and lynch are simultaneous.)

**Drain Bead** asked to be sub’d, but I don’t do subs. The town probably would’ve been better Brigging them, maybe.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/35 "2011-03-25T14:53:00Z")

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> [@Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Incorrigible](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/412):
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> I just want to point out that if Inner Stickler was to be arranged to receive the doctor’s results, the proper procedure would have been for fluiddruid to swap him with Mahaloth after (or for that matter prior to) Mahaloth making his choice. The lynch, even if it had been Hal Briston lynched, would not have changed anything. Inner Stickler would have gotten the doctor’s results and then also acted as the Engineer during the night (had Hal Briston been lynched); or gotten the doctor’s results and remained doctor otherwise.

Thing is, Inner is the last person you want in the Engineer’s seat, because then the scum can kill a somewhat-confirmed Townie and prevent a Watcher report with one kill.

Unless the Engineer can watch himself & have the report delivered to his successor?

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/36 "2011-03-25T15:11:17Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Unless the Engineer can watch himself & have the report delivered to his successor?

Nope. Actions are simultaneous unless specifically noted otherwise. So the Engineer would get their report at the same time they get killed. Scum have already asked this question. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/37 "2011-03-25T19:15:43Z")

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I’m waiting to see how everyone reacts to **Idle** ’s new position.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/38 "2011-03-25T19:44:33Z")

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Assuming yesterDay’s Doc was telling the truth, that makes Idle’s result reliable.

And if the Doc was lying, Scum are in an awesome position.

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**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/39 "2011-03-25T19:51:47Z")

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> [@Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Incorrigible](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/421):
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> Well. I didn’t expect that.

Neither did I :(.

> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Total gut feeling: Normal Phase is scum. Anybody else getting that vibe from him?

I did notice she seemed to play it dumb sometimes. Might be her ‘feeding others rope to hang themselves with’ but I don’t recall her advocating such a strategy before.

> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Calling it now: Mahaloth is scum.

I would take that bet as well.  
I’m actually not that sure about fluiddruid, maybe Stanilaus (expected a bit more from him if town I think) and maybe glowacks (his comments seemed a bit wooly to me as if he was trying to fill his post without actually saying much, but I think that got better at the of the Day).

> [@Pleonast](#):
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> I’m hoping that once votes start coming in, players will start to get more rancorous.

I think the forced multivote helps participation (more things to argue about) but still the ball needs to start rolling first.  
As for Idle new position: not that unsuspected I think from him. I was far from convinced he was scum but kept my vote on him because his continued repetition of “I’m a good town power role, unvote me”.

Also please spoil me :).

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**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/40 "2011-03-25T19:56:45Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
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> And there’s Natlaw, trying the gambit.

😛

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