# Telephone Sanitizers and Account Execs (forbidden thread for SS Incorrigible) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 17, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029 "2011-03-17T15:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/61 "2011-03-31T15:12:00Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > It really only dilutes the value of a vote if the player has found fewer scum candidates than votes that have to be made. That is, a player who only wants to vote for one player, needs to find filler votes. Agreed that is not helpful to town, but a townie who finds one player to vote and then stops looking for scum is not helpful to the town, either. Philosophically I disagree with this, if only because my best strategy is perpetually “find a scum, hang on them until they are lynched, find next target.” > [@](#): > > When I play, I typically have multiple players I find suspicious enough to vote. In a single-vote system, I’m forced to pick one, and the others get off free. With multi-votes, someone who is slightly suspicious to many players is at more risk than someone who is very suspicious to only a few. I think that is helpful to town–scum tend to get some suspicion, but often not enough to get a vote, when there’s only one vote per player. Contrariwise, when I’m town, I find I’m often generating a lot of low-level suspicion simply for being a highly aggressive player with bouts of silence–your voting system will lead to me being incorrectly lynched much more often because there’s less risk involved in voting a marginal candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/62 "2011-03-31T15:43:58Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Philosophically I disagree with this, if only because my best strategy is perpetually “find a scum, hang on them until they are lynched, find next target.” Even with that strategy, you can still be looking at other players to find the next target, before your primary target is lynched or killed. > [@](#): > > Contrariwise, when I’m town, I find I’m often generating a lot of low-level suspicion simply for being a highly aggressive player with bouts of silence–your voting system will lead to me being incorrectly lynched much more often because there’s less risk involved in voting a marginal candidate. I’d say it means that players need to improve their scum-finding techniques, then. Of course, I’m a player who gets votes for aggressive play, as well. And some players, who I disagree with, would say it means you need to change your play style. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/63 "2011-03-31T17:14:34Z")
Something that I don’t think any players have mentioned is the importance of rank in tie-breaking at lynch or lose. If the game reaches a state with equal numbers of scum and town, it’s not game-over because rank will break tied votes. Having a confirmed town as Captain is very valuable. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/64 "2011-03-31T19:13:56Z")
No surprise. Maybe a little bit on Hal. Peeker shooting him is really interesting and at this point I don’t know what I think of it (or him). I wish I’d been able to say more/more varied things on more people. Just not a good headspace for me, the whole time. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/65 "2011-03-31T19:14:57Z")
I’d also like to smack Hal, and not entirely metaphorically. What he did really pisses me off. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/66 "2011-03-31T19:17:49Z")
Hard for Town to win when 1/3 of them can’t make it to the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/67 "2011-03-31T19:31:02Z")
Christ. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/68 "2011-03-31T20:36:16Z")
LOL at the unspoiled thread thinking I was scummy. I was thinking I was scummy, too. All the way back to the beginning of day one, it was just “what am I DOING”? I haven’t had a game in a long time where I’ve just felt so OFF, at least not as town. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/69 "2011-04-01T15:51:30Z")
> [@Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Incorrigible](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mafia-mutiny-on-the-ss-incorrigible/574676/590): > > I’m not going to vote for [peeker], since he is in the Brig after all, and I don’t see a point to releasing him today when we could be Brigging someone else (presumably). I just don’t want it to be considered a town confirm. Scummity scum scum. The security officer can both release one player and jail one player on the same day. It’s possible that fluid doesn’t understand that, but “misunderstandings” like that were a major tactic used by the scum in the previous run of this game. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/70 "2011-04-01T15:56:57Z")
🆒 Yes, they were. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/71 "2011-04-01T17:42:42Z")
Grrr. I still haven’t forgiven the lot of you for lynching me day one. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/72 "2011-04-01T21:09:30Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s possible that fluid doesn’t understand that, but “misunderstandings” like that were a major tactic used by the scum in the previous run of this game. No, that was “misunderstandings” more like Everyone else: “OK, then, we’re agreed. We jail **Darth** , and then the new doctor investigates **Cookies**.” Darth: “OK, good plan. I’ll go along with it. I investigate **ColdPhoenix**.” ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/73 "2011-04-01T21:10:52Z")
LOL, exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/74 "2011-04-05T15:34:26Z")
**Fluiddruid** says: “Assuming we don’t lynch a scum tonight (which I still feel is quite likely, though granted you can’t know that)” And she’s voting for the current two vote leaders. I parse her statement as saying she feels it’s likely they MIS lynch. So she’s questioning her own votes? I’d lynch her for that. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/75 "2011-04-05T18:08:26Z")
For those playing from home, as it stands the only way **Crackrat** does not get spaced is if one of the active players changes his or her vote (Crackrat showing up and voting will NOT be enough). (assuming Naf doesn’t show up & peeker isn’t released). ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/76 "2011-04-05T19:11:03Z")
Well, despite their best efforts, this crew of misfits managed to lynch scum. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/77 "2011-04-05T19:22:28Z")
So I’m sure someone’s going to ask this in the game thread, but is it possible for there to be more than one of a given role in the game? (Aside from Mates obviously) ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/78 "2011-04-05T19:28:41Z")
From the rules OP: _All crew members will have one of the listed roles below; missing or repeated roles are possible._ There can be multiples of any role and there’s no restriction on their alignments, except for Mates and Ring Leaders. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/79 "2011-04-06T21:28:46Z")
Idle is really not paying attention to the mechanics this game. That’s the second easy point he’s whiffed on. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029/80 "2011-04-06T21:29:37Z")
I’m sure that Idle is scum. So many rules misunderstandings combined with the death of a scum hacker makes me relatively certain he’s the ringleader. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telephone-sanitizers-and-account-execs-forbidden-thread-for-ss-incorrigible/575029.md?page=5)