# Televangelist Kenneth Copeland is Coco for Cocoa Puffs. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 1, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854 "2019-06-01T00:28:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/21 "2019-06-02T18:13:44Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > It’s not like this is anything new either. You can go back to Jim Jones, The Bakkers etc. In probably the most famous example, [this guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-rfCnW5VlE) pulled together nearly $20,000,000 in a weekend. Phil’s cheesy rug is too nice for him to be a real televangelist. Saw Peter Popoff earlier. When doing his “healing” schtick he wore the infamous hearing aid but when schilling ‘alabaster oil’ – cooking oil in a plastic packet like ketchup – he didn’t. I suppose he could hear his wife just fine with her sitting right next to him. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/22 "2019-06-02T18:35:27Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Heck, I’m impressed Copeland is still around and going at it, he’s been at it a while. > Minivan, bought used (two of them, really, to fit the Apostles). The Apostles could all fit in one Accord. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/23 "2019-06-02T18:44:35Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I don’t have any inside information. Ken seems so much different then how I remember him 20 years ago. > > His emotions seemed all over the place in that video. Very unstable. > > As this thread title says, he seems nuts. > > He’s the right age to be in the early stages of dementia. There’s a HUGE difference between someone speaking in a professional capacity vs them being called out by a reporter for something they said. Look what happens when reporter finds a politician and asks them difficult questions or TMZ corners a celeb at an airport. Being flustered or even lashing out because you’re on TV and asked to explain something you mentioned (sometimes in passing/in the heat of the moment) doesn’t mean you have dementia. If you find one of his recent sermons, he may be just like you remember him. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/24 "2019-06-02T18:49:45Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Phil’s cheesy rug is too nice for him to be a real televangelist. [Here’s](https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/oleantimesherald.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/52/f52aba4e-5938-11e4-9c3b-9786141ad1e2/54467f4ddd94f.image.jpg) his inspiration for that character. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/25 "2019-06-03T06:31:17Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > He’s got 10 times the money as Joel Osteen, he’s doing faith healing and I’ll bet he’s got the charisma of Jim Jones. That’s a powerful combination for the weak minded, the people that will do what they’re told as long as they believe doing so will bring them closer to god/reserve their spot in heaven or that the preacher has some type of direct conduit with god/jesus. > If a preacher can make that type of connection with their congregation, they can ask for just about anything from them, and get it, in the name of the lord. > > It’s not like this is anything new either. You can go back to Jim Jones, The Bakkers etc. In probably the most famous example, [this guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-rfCnW5VlE) pulled together nearly $20,000,000 in a weekend. Wasn’t there one guy who said if he didn’t get a certain amount of donations in a certain amount of time, God would “call him home?” Who was that? (And I think people actually DID donate, too!) ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/26 "2019-06-03T06:41:33Z")
oral roberts and he did more than once and got it ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/27 "2019-06-03T13:04:19Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > His daughter, while not anti-vax, does say that there’s a vaccination/autism link She has a mixed record on the subject according to [this article](https://www.npr.org/2013/09/01/217746942/texas-megachurch-at-center-of-measles-outbreak), but endorses classic antivax memes and her church helped spark a measles outbreak. Nice how she acknowledges “facts”, but says the Truth (Biblical, one assumes) “always overcomes facts”. She’ll never go as far as Daddy in the evangelical game. Her eyes aren’t scary enough. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/28 "2019-06-03T16:01:47Z")
My next user name is going to be Tube Demon. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/29 "2019-06-03T16:42:04Z")
Guys like this give a bad name to Christianity. > [@CairoCarol](#): > > My next user name is going to be Tube Demon. Somewhat risky. Band name? ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/30 "2019-06-03T17:24:10Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > The Apostles could all fit in one Accord. Only if they were clowns. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/31 "2019-06-04T13:39:21Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > \ …he just looks like a preacher. \ He looks like the bloke the bobbies toss in the nick for cutting the throats of 15 men in his hair salon with a straight razor. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/32 "2019-06-04T14:27:26Z")
Why yes, Mr. Copeland, I _do_ expect you to go in amongst a bunch of “demons” when you’re preparing to go preach, _because that’s exactly where a preacher is most needed_. The traditional response to Mr. Copeland’s actions would involve his plane being swallowed by a leviathan, and him then getting spat out in the middle of a crowded airliner on a long flight. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/33 "2019-06-04T16:28:08Z")
If anyone could make me believe in demons, it would be him. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/34 "2019-06-04T17:21:20Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Why yes, Mr. Copeland, I _do_ expect you to go in amongst a bunch of “demons” when you’re preparing to go preach, _because that’s exactly where a preacher is most needed_. Do you really want to spend three hours stuck in a tube with a televangelist? ---
**Author:** ![skyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/54ee81/32.png) [@skyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skyr)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/35 "2019-06-04T20:05:28Z")
There is a decent chance he really is demented, since about 1 out of 5 people in his age group are. The fact that he seems to be having trouble even articulating a coherent thought to respond to her makes me suspect he may have some cognitive impairment, but I don’t know what he was like in his prime. I have never watched televangelists. I would not donate to a televangelist myself, but I also don’t care if others want to do so. Sure, I think their money would be better spent on other things, but it’s their money and it’s their choice to make. I am much more concerned about people following actual cult leaders (such as the aforementioned Jim Jones, David Koresh, Jehovah’s Witnesses encouraging their members to die rather than take blood transfusions, Islamic extremists encouraging people to blow themselves up) than I am about this dude being a hypocrite. Do I think a church pastor needs a private jet? No, but I have seen GoFundMe campaigns for things just as dumb or maybe dumber. I have seen professional athletes and wealthy politicians whose contributions to society were arguably less valuable. If this guy is providing people with something they find worthwhile enough that they want to support him having a private jet, then so be it. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/36 "2019-06-04T21:37:54Z")
His face looks like claymation. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2019, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/37 "2019-06-08T09:52:23Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Guys like this give a bad name to Christianity. > > Somewhat risky. Band name? Okay - “Tube Demon” for a band name, and “somewhat risky” for a user name. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/38 "2019-06-09T19:33:43Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Do you really want to spend three hours stuck in a tube with a televangelist? Fun times since airlines will provide you with a KJV if you ask. Wife would play Dueling Verses with Wheaton College (Billy Graham’s alma mater) students. She was Methodist and did it from memory. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/39 "2019-06-11T00:40:21Z")
I used to live just down the road from the Kenneth Copeland Ministries campus near Eagle Mountain Lake, north of Fort Worth (and I’m still only about a 20 minute drive from there). It was a very large estate with many buildings, and had a landing strip and a few small hangars. I only ever saw prop planes there, though. I never bothered to watch him preach–either in person or on TV. In that video clip with the reporter, he doesn’t come across to ma as having dementia. He’s just full of shit like every other televangelist, and isn’t used to being called out on it. He needs to take lessons from Joel Osteen. From what I’ve seen, that guy has gotten really good at deflecting/rationalizing questions about his obscene wealth. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2019, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854/40 "2019-06-11T07:40:08Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > airlines will provide you with a KJV if you ask. Huh? is this really a thing? And why limit it to the King James version? Seems politically incorrect. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/televangelist-kenneth-copeland-is-coco-for-cocoa-puffs/834854.md?page=3)