# Television Show Complaints

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/television-show-complaints/559066>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 1, 2010, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/television-show-complaints/559066 "2010-11-01T07:11:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/television-show-complaints/559066/61 "2010-11-03T22:25:30Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I didn’t actually think they used special L-shaped sheets. I realized they’re normal sheets that are strategically arranged to cover up the woman’s torso while exposing the man’s torso.

Then instead of making up magic “L-sheets” you should say something about how men’s chests are always warm after sex while women’s are always cold. 😃

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/television-show-complaints/559066/62 "2010-11-03T23:29:21Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> Quick, view the source of this page, and see how fast you can reproduce it in a new window by typing as fast as possible and not once using the mouse.

CTRL+U  
(Firefox)  
What do I win? 🙂

I hate the type-real-fast = Hacking trope, but I’d say an honest-to-god computer expert will be able to do a hell of a lot without touching the mouse. In fact, I can’t think of a single reason why anyone would need a mouse to enable or create a hack in most instances. Most hackers would presumably be very familiar with the command line and the keyboard shortcuts for their operating system of choice.

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**Author:** ![perfectparanoia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@perfectparanoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/perfectparanoia)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/television-show-complaints/559066/63 "2010-11-03T23:37:29Z")

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> [@BlackKnight](#):
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> CTRL+U  
> (Firefox)  
> What do I win? 🙂
> 
> I hate the type-real-fast = Hacking trope, but I’d say an honest-to-god computer expert will be able to do a hell of a lot without touching the mouse. In fact, I can’t think of a single reason why anyone would need a mouse to enable or create a hack in most instances. Most hackers would presumably be very familiar with the command line and the keyboard shortcuts for their operating system of choice.

\<aside\> We have a developer at work with a severe repetive strain injury in his shoulder who basically cannot use a mouse at all. He uses the keyboard for most things (for the rest he is working speech recognition, it’s pretty nifty but I am glad I don’t sit beside him). This makes me further suspect (since he is quite effective) that you can do just about anything without a mouse.\</aside\>

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/television-show-complaints/559066/64 "2010-11-03T23:50:01Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> If you don’t wear a mask and also act as if you’re supposed to be doing what you’re doing, you can go in anywhere and do anything and no one will stop you.

While I’ve only used this power for good and not evil, this is not all that unusual or impossible. There have been a number of things that I have done/gotten into just because I didn’t act nervous or shift my eyes.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/television-show-complaints/559066/65 "2010-11-04T00:01:36Z")

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> [@BlackKnight](#):
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> CTRL+U  
> (Firefox)  
> What do I win? 🙂
> 
> I hate the type-real-fast = Hacking trope, but I’d say an honest-to-god computer expert will be able to do a hell of a lot without touching the mouse. In fact, I can’t think of a single reason why anyone would need a mouse to enable or create a hack in most instances. Most hackers would presumably be very familiar with the command line and the keyboard shortcuts for their operating system of choice.

A hell of alot, true, but this is a guy in the police department that has bad guy’s machine. Time’s not a factor. He wouldn’t bother using the mouse to perform any sort of lookups on other methods in unfamiliar code he happened to be trying to figure out? While I could get away with using the mouse, doing so on a regular basis would be maddening.

And then there’s the typing speed. "Let’s see…

::cracks knuckles::

dfjkghsdfjkghdfklsghdfsklghdfjklghldfjkghhdfjksgh;dfksghdfjklghdfjkghdfjkghh

…I’m in."

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/television-show-complaints/559066/66 "2010-11-04T01:48:21Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> Plenty. Recently the British comedy show “Benidorm”, based in a Spanish holiday resort ,was full of this.

It’s a comedy set in Benidorm - which is known for being trashy - and the main cast were either ordinary or notably below Hollywood standard. It’s not the kind of ‘passing by a pool’ scene the OP means.

> [@Voyager](#):
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> That was the entire premise of _Columbo_ - though you knew the guest star was the murderer from the beginning, so it wasn’t an issue.

See, I like that. That’s a ‘how and why’ detective show, with no pretence as to ‘who.’ A lot of these other shows pretend that we don’t know who the killer’s going to be, even if there’s a big name in the cast, and they don’t focus enough on the why and how.

I think that’s one of the biggest annoying TV cliches that’s still common. I mean, I don’t see the l-shaped sheets so much any more - either they’ll both be covered or the woman will have her top half covered in another way. And most TV shows have a way of explaining why their main character found the clue so quickly on this particular case - it’s not just that they’re Supercop.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/television-show-complaints/559066/67 "2010-11-04T02:40:28Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> Perhaps the question should have been Has there ever been a pool scene in an American show without 100% perfect bodies?" In general, British TV is much more tolerant of non-beautiful people than American TV is.

I want to say Pete and Pete had such a scene. Then again as it was a Nickelodeon show, it could be argued that it’s for one reason or another off limits to the question. Live Action show on the kids net, that accepted quirky, but didn’t play off of it. – Everyone accepted Artie, “The Strongest Man in the World” with out second thought. IIRC Artie wasn’t even developed muscularly.

I want to say that a heavier female was in a pool, complete with shower / swim cap.

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/television-show-complaints/559066/68 "2010-11-04T02:44:21Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> A hell of alot, true, but this is a guy in the police department that has bad guy’s machine. Time’s not a factor. He wouldn’t bother using the mouse to perform any sort of lookups on other methods in unfamiliar code he happened to be trying to figure out?

If we’re assuming that someone with deep knowledge is analyzing a bad-guy’s computer, I can easily believe that they’d stick to command line tools in some \*nix environment. It’s not that they’d prefer the mouse but want to save time by using just the keyboard. It’s that they’d actually prefer not to use the mouse because it just slows them down and they can do things easier without it.

Of course, this doesn’t work as an explanation when they’re clearly shown using some gaudy GUI that creates an absurd number of beeps and boops.

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**Author:** ![Tess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@Tess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tess)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/television-show-complaints/559066/69 "2010-11-04T05:36:07Z")

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A group of experienced detectives who can’t seem to do anything until their fearless leader walks them through what should be routine steps for an investigation.  
I had to laugh when one of the characters on Hawaii 5-0 cut off McGarret with “Guess what? I’ve done this before.”

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/television-show-complaints/559066/70 "2010-11-04T05:42:13Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Are you posting from 1998? Because when I visit a webpage, it loads more or less instantly.

No, I’m posting from 2010 with a pretty fast cable connection. I still get pages that time out or hang up 3rd party banner ads or their server isn’t responding and all that other stuff. But I’m glad your life is so charmed that this never happens to you 🙂

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