# Tell Me About Arresting Judges **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 27, 2025, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558 "2025-04-27T09:33:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558/21 "2025-04-27T19:16:48Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > if a judge was dealing drugs or fucking children behind their bench or in their chambers, would any of us see a problem arresting them then and there? Let’s be precise. If a judge was alleged of having committed such crimes. If there was any reason to believe that crimes were ongoing that day, appropriate to go into the courtroom to arrest. If the was concern the alleged perpetrator might be a flight risk or destroy evidence. Sure. But on allegation of a crime without either of those two things? Legal to do but I’d think better to arrest them after the work day, leaving, or at their home. There is no doubt that the choosing to arrest a judge there for an alleged crime committed in their capacity as judge is intended to terrorize other judges into full cooperation with any ICE operations. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558/22 "2025-04-27T19:43:26Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Legal to do but I’d think better to arrest them after the work day, leaving, or at their home. > > There is no doubt that the choosing to arrest a judge there for an alleged crime committed in their capacity as judge is intended to terrorize other judges into full cooperation with any ICE operations. We are in full agreement. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558/23 "2025-04-27T19:50:45Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > There is also the question of the need to make an arrest of a sitting judge. Making an arrest and taking someone into custody is done to ensure that they will not take flight and will appear before a court for arraignment. Federal agents know where she works and lives, she’s unlikely to be a flight risk, and the question of whether she used her position to obstruct the lawful conduct of federal agents is really one for the First Judicial District of the County of Milwaukee and the Wisconsin Supreme Court, since she did so using her authority as a judge. ^ This. Also this: > [@natureboy](#): > > Based on the details provided, it’s probably fair to question whether allowing her courtroom to be used in such a way that it provided the accused an opportunity to evade ICE officials was appropriate, but I don’t necessarily think it rises to the level of a federal felony, which she’s been charged with. Not only would it be unusual to charge with a federal felony a judge accused of what the Trumpites CLAIM she did, but she doesn’t appear to have done what they claim she did. Here’s one problem with their claims: > **[The Tennessee Holler (@thetnholler.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3lnpnxmiuu223)** > > WISCONSIN: The chair of the elections commission, a lawyer, breaks down what actually happened using the actual complaint. > > Arresting judges like this is a wild fast-forwarding of our plunge into authoritarianism. The graphic in that post: [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5o6k7jvowuyaquloafzn3cfw/bafkreigkg5nublje7gspyknjmdsqkoulizvyy6rifygnfc4562l2sv3ify@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5o6k7jvowuyaquloafzn3cfw/bafkreigkg5nublje7gspyknjmdsqkoulizvyy6rifygnfc4562l2sv3ify@jpeg) The criminal complaint contains false statements, which fact obviously will form the crux of Dugan’s defense. But just as obviously, forcing her to PUT ON A DEFENSE to false claims is standard operating procedure for the Trump Regime. (The full criminal complaint is linked to here: ) > **[Asha Rangappa (@asharangappa.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.social/post/3lnntgdgiyk26)** > > Seeing claims about the judge "hiding" the defendant. Read the complaint, folks (written by DOJ). The guy was literally in the public area where the agents were. I guess he got on an elevator before they could get to him. The complaint says after... ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558/24 "2025-04-27T19:50:51Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > for any non-lobotomized witness who lived through January 6th and the Alternate Slate of Electors scheme, and understands the _factual_ differences between Trump’s and the RW media’s version of events and the actual, painfully well-documented realities {…} I had a feeling I wasn’t firing on too many cylinders when I wrote this. I fixed it above in case anybody _felt_ as confused by it as I apparently _was_. Thank you for your patience and understanding while we work through these technical issues 😉 ---
**Author:** ![natureboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@natureboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/natureboy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558/25 "2025-04-27T23:15:36Z")
Wait, you’re saying the House of MAGA is lying? Is that what you’re saying? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558/26 "2025-04-27T23:49:33Z")
From the Complaint: > I am familiar with the layout of the sixth floor of the courthouse and know that the south elevators are not the closest elevators to Courtroom 615, and therefore it appears that Flores-Ruiz and his counsel elected not to use the closest elevator bank to Courtroom 615. It’s astounding to me: some of you _hate Trump so much_ that you’re willing to let a **monster** roam free among us. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558/27 "2025-04-28T00:24:30Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Of course, this instance looks bad (to anyone with a brain) and is not necessary. But such concerns do not register with the current admin. And it likely appeals to his base. > [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > I dunno. Might be. A while back Facebook recommended that I “friend” an old co-worker who is mega MAGA and a “Christian”. I did no such thing but I have been keeping an eye on his feed to see how typical MAGA is responding to events. This is what he had to say about arresting the judge: “The socialist commies are what they are and will not get anywhere… They hate America and American’s and do not follow laws…Evil!” They are absolutely brainwashed and will never turn against Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558/28 "2025-04-28T21:56:11Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > This is what he had to say about arresting the judge: “The socialist commies are what they are and will not get anywhere… They hate America and American’s and do not follow laws…Evil!” They are absolutely brainwashed and will never turn against Trump. Not only are they brainwashed, but they NEVER encounter any information or facts that might lead them to question the fakery they’ve enthusiastically swallowed. But on the positive side: they are no where near being a majority. Recent polling (in advance of the “100 days” mark) shows similar patterns; here’s one: > [@](#): > > … A majority of adults overall (51%) have negative feelings about the actions the Trump administration has taken so far, with 23% saying they are furious. On the other side, 32% have positive feelings toward the administration, with 13% feeling thrilled about its actions so far. … That 13% is your old co-worker-and-friends. The ‘MAGA forever’ types. Everyone else is starting to ask some questions. And when the store shelves are empty in a few weeks, more will start asking questions. > [@natureboy](#): > > Wait, you’re saying the House of MAGA is lying? Is that what you’re saying? I believe the proper usage is “the _S\_ \_ t_-House of MAGA is lying” (with letters excised in consideration of the sub-forum). > [@DavidNRockies](#): > > It’s astounding to me: some of you _hate Trump so much_ that you’re willing to let a **monster** roam free among us. > > :rolleyes: I saw this a few days back: [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:yehxibr22vhoobvcmmnkvrfv/bafkreie3ac2dpzywfdmlaoywwc3piy5efqw6hbr3rqrpgd7jl2deqhui7u@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:yehxibr22vhoobvcmmnkvrfv/bafkreie3ac2dpzywfdmlaoywwc3piy5efqw6hbr3rqrpgd7jl2deqhui7u@jpeg) The poll: > **[Poll: Americans vent disappointment with Trump ahead of his 100th day,...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/poll-americans-vent-disappointment-trump-ahead-100-day-mark-especially-rcna202656)** > > A majority of American adults, 55%, disapprove of Trump’s job performance in the new NBC News Stay Tuned Poll. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2025, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558/29 "2025-05-01T18:12:43Z")
[Legal Eagle weighs in](https://youtu.be/TPQeZalnArY?si=ICkCWY0WWBmy2BCm) on the judicial arrests. The video is about 27 minutes long, and goes into detail about how thin some of the charges are. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2025, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558/30 "2025-05-01T18:40:45Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > It is certainly is a bad look. The bad look is the point, I believe. There is no need for an arrest. You’d arrest someone when you want to make sure that a person is available for questioning, or to ensure that they no longer present a danger to the public. This is a sitting judge and isn’t likely to suddenly flee and isn’t mugging people in alleys. The arrest was absolutely unnecessary. However, it does make a show of the administration being “serious” and is a great intimidation tactic for any other judge who dares to oppose the aims of ICE, legally or not. So that is the purpose an arrest serves. Whether or not you think the arrest is a good idea depends on whether or not you agree with the idea that judges need to be intimidated into falling in line behind what the Trump administration wants to do. Being cruel is the point here. It’s along the same lines as breaking up families at the border years ago. You are trying to simultaneously show that you’re being “tough” for your voter base, and present a deterrent against defiance of your agenda. I’m sure people on the right were just cheering this move and hoping to see more of it. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558/31 "2025-05-01T18:58:00Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > You’d arrest someone when you want to make sure that a person is available for questioning, or to ensure that they no longer present a danger to the public. This is a sitting judge and isn’t likely to suddenly flee and isn’t mugging people in alleys. According to a lot of cops I see on Youtube, the standard for arrest is “Disrespecting my authoritah!”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-arresting-judges/1017558.md?page=1)