# Tell me about Farscape (no spoilers though!)

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**Created:** [March 17, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224 "2015-03-17T19:45:35Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/41 "2015-03-19T21:09:56Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Oh yeah that was hilarious.
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> And just now in one of the episodes there was a joke about Mad Max 3 and the Thunderdome. When Rygel expresses confusion, Crichton responds “Don’t worry, nobody saw the third one anyway”.

You know, I forgot about this particular brand of humor on this show. It almost makes me want to watch it again.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/42 "2015-03-19T22:07:43Z")

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From I, E.T…

J; This place reminds me of Louisiana… Or Dagobah  
A; Dagobah?  
J; yeah, Dagobah, where Yoda lives…  
A; ?Yoda?  
J; yeah, little green guy, trains warriors…

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/43 "2015-03-20T03:14:30Z")

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> [@TCMF-2L](#):
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> And who remembers the special 200th episode of Stargate (by now including Ben and Claudia in the cast) where the Stargate team come up with suggestions for a TV show and parody, amongst many other things, Farscape?
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> TCMF-2L

Yes, catching that episode back when they were in weekend syndication is actually what got me into watching the Stargate shows.

> [@TCMF-2L](#):
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> Sebaceans (virtually all Peacekeepers are Sebaceans) aren’t actually cold blooded are they?

Yes, they explicitly call them cold blooded (and not in a metaphorical sense) on the show, but they don’t react to heat like a cold blooded creature, so I’m guessing the writers just dun goofed. (Is that how you spell the name of the race? So glad I didn’t even try, I would’ve been way off on that one).

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/44 "2015-03-20T09:53:00Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> Y
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> Yes, they explicitly call them cold blooded (and not in a metaphorical sense) on the show, but they don’t react to heat like a cold blooded creature, so I’m guessing the writers just dun goofed. (Is that how you spell the name of the race? So glad I didn’t even try, I would’ve been way off on that one).

TBG

Been a while since I watched the show but I checked with a couple of on-line sources and Sebaceans aren’t described as cold blooded on either.

There’s two relevant incidents I do recall. I don’t think mentioning either is a spoiler:

1. Crichton often disguises himself as a Peacekeeper. On one of those occasions an Alien (won’t name the species since that would be a spoiler) glances at him and immediately notices his “Heat Signature” is completely wrong for a Sebacean.

However that Alien is supposedly particularly attuned to heat and reading heat signatures and we later see how that character developed the skill as a child. That Alien is so sensitive to body heat they act as a living lie detector. So “easily” detecting Crichton doesn’t mean Crichton’s body temperature is wildy different to a normal Sebacean.

1. Technically this is a spoiler other than it is only hinted at and never actually confirmed - but purists wanting to avoid all spoilers stop now.

It is hinted throughout the show that Humans (Crichton) and Sebaceans are very similar - Crichton normally passes for a Sebacean even when not in disguise. However at the very end of the show there is a passing comment about Sebaceans were bred from specimens bought across from the other side of the galaxy. Which suggests Sebaceans are modified humans.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the show made a passing reference to Sebaceans being cold blooded early on but if they did I think they dropped it soon after.

TCMF-2L

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/45 "2015-03-20T14:27:53Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> From I, E.T…
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> J; This place reminds me of Louisiana… Or Dagobah  
> A; Dagobah?  
> J; yeah, Dagobah, where Yoda lives…  
> A; ?Yoda?  
> J; yeah, little green guy, trains warriors…

And Aeryn just kind of nods and accepts it, since it isn’t that odd of a thing to hear out in space.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/46 "2015-03-20T14:30:59Z")

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Here is the exchange regarding their cold blooded nature. It is said by Crichton and Dargo goes with it, but I don’t think even the species out there would have classified them this way. Dargo just kind of agrees to what John says.

Please show me another reference where they are classified as cold blooded.

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> John: “What’s her problem?”  
> D’Argo: “Sebacean heat delirium.”  
> John: “What?”  
> D’Argo: “Sebaceans lack the gland necessary to regulate extreme thermal increases.”  
> John: “Wait, Crais and those other bastards chasing us are cold blooded? Literally?”  
> D’Argo: “It’s a weakness not enough of them die from.”

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/47 "2015-03-20T16:53:41Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> And Aeryn just kind of nods and accepts it, since it isn’t that odd of a thing to hear out in space.

Yah I’m growing rather fond of her blank looks. You can almost see her thought process: “Crichton is talking about something again. Oh well, he’ll be done soon.”

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/48 "2015-03-20T17:04:14Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Yah I’m growing rather fond of her blank looks. You can almost see her thought process: “Crichton is talking about something again. Oh well, he’ll be done soon.”

What choice does she have? Crichton is the only source of info on Earth, she can’t go check Galactipedia, so yea unless his claim is really outlandish rolling with it is most logical 🙂

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/49 "2015-03-22T08:54:56Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Here is the exchange regarding their cold blooded nature. It is said by Crichton and Dargo goes with it, but I don’t think even the species out there would have classified them this way. Dargo just kind of agrees to what John says.

I don’t see why not. Cold-blooded could have been taken to mean that their blood has to stay colder. Or just some phrase that Dargo didn’t know what it meant–I’m sure Crichton has a lot of those.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/50 "2015-03-22T13:21:11Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I don’t see why not. Cold-blooded could have been taken to mean that their blood has to stay colder. Or just some phrase that Dargo didn’t know what it meant–I’m sure Crichton has a lot of those.

Don’t cold blooded-animals slow down in cold weather, though? We have seen Aeryn in colder environments and it is pointed out that Sebaceans were bred to actually thrive in the cold. On the other hand, Scarrans do poorly in cold and do well in warmer temperatures.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/51 "2015-03-22T13:22:33Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Here is the exchange regarding their cold blooded nature. It is said by Crichton and Dargo goes with it, but I don’t think even the species out there would have classified them this way. Dargo just kind of agrees to what John says.
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> Please show me another reference where they are classified as cold blooded.

> [@BigT](#):
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> I don’t see why not. Cold-blooded could have been taken to mean that their blood has to stay colder. Or just some phrase that Dargo didn’t know what it meant–I’m sure Crichton has a lot of those.

That’s how I understood it. Not cold blooded in a reptilian sense, but cold blooded in a literal sense - their normal body temperature is colder than humans. The translator microbes aren’t perfect translators of idioms, and in this case the literal translation would, in fact, sound correct to D’argo. In this case, the literal words “cold blooded” are actually accurate when compared to humans, where as the term “cold-blooded” to refer to poikilothermy, ectothermy, and bradymetabolism are not.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/52 "2015-03-22T13:45:54Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Here is the exchange regarding their cold blooded nature. It is said by Crichton and Dargo goes with it, but I don’t think even the species out there would have classified them this way. Dargo just kind of agrees to what John says.

I have already staked my claim that Sebaceans are not literally cold blooded. Having said that, the quote you provided undermines my position but can be refuted:

When Crichton asks “\*\*\* [Sebaceans] are cold blooded? Literally?\*\*\*” he is possibly (from context - I don’t remember the exchange) incredulous. He may be asking “Literally?” but actually dismissing the notion as it is so incongruous.

D’Argo’s reply is vaguely oblique. We know he cares little for Peacekeepers. So it isn’t clear whether he understands what Crichton actually means by “Cold blooded” and, as noted up thread, D’Argo could be hearing a typical opaque “Crichtonism” and ignoring it.

I think Sebaceans as cold blooded is simply a minor plot hole by the writers. Added to make a plot point for an episode and largely ignored by the wider show narrative.

TCMF-2L

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/53 "2015-03-23T14:41:52Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> What choice does she have? Crichton is the only source of info on Earth, she can’t go check Galactipedia, so yea unless his claim is really outlandish rolling with it is most logical 🙂

Oh, I don’t mean that she’d necessarily disagree with him. Just that in her head, he must periodically descend into gibberish, so she just waits for him to start making sense again.

Not always patiently, I might add.

I just finished the episode wherein Crichton makes the wormhole and nearly zips back to Earth, and then goes to the mechanic to get the flyer fixed. I didn’t like this one too much. For one, Furlow the mechanic really looked kind of freaky and I kept getting distracted by her looks - they put her just in the uncanny valley territory. Plus, Crichton was kind of a douche in this one. Actually, so was D’Argo. And Zhaan was too busy having “photogasms” - which was really uncomfortable, by the way - to be useful. And the allies thing between D’Argo and Crichton was too smooth.

So yeah, I guess I didn’t really like the episode. But there were some good parts, with Crichton mastering the bounty hunters.

D’Argo is a shitty fighter though.

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**Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/54 "2015-04-19T11:53:04Z")

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I’m reviving this thread to give thanks to **Anaamika**.

I haven’t watched this show since it first aired. IN honor of this thread, I decided to give it a re watch.

I think I’m enjoying it more the second time around! And bonus points for me not remembering there are a shit tonne of episodes I’ve never seen.

And I also forgot how much I love the humor.

When D’argo acts effeminate, (Due to body switch or whatever.) it cracks my shit up.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/55 "2015-04-20T00:31:19Z")

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The body switch episode was just hilarious all around, as well as being a tour de force of acting: You could tell at a glance who was in each body by the mannerisms.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-farscape-no-spoilers-though/715224/56 "2015-04-20T01:41:14Z")

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Netflix has got to get some HD rights for this show so I can watch it again in HD. Did it ever come out on any HD format?

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