# Tell Me About Pittsburgh, Then..

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 24, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786 "2015-01-24T20:47:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/21 "2015-01-25T18:13:49Z")

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In the greater Pittsburgh area, such segregation as remains is largely a residue of when the milltowns were company towns. The companies tended to house their proles by ethnic group. When the mills crashed, a big chunk of the population moved away. Those who stayed behind stayed in the towns/neighborhoods where the company had originally placed their families because those places had been home for several generations.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/22 "2015-01-25T18:41:23Z")

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> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#):
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> Do they have that accent that Philly has? Is it super snowy and cold in the winter and hot and humid in the summer, or what?

Pittsburgh has its own very distinctive accent and vocabulary —

Yinz or Yunz = Y’all  
Jumbo = bologna  
Jagoff = asshole  
rubbij = garbage  
Chip-chop meat = cold cuts  
Redd up = tidy  
Sweep = vacuum clean  
Buggy = shopping cart  
Nebby = nosey  
Gumband = rubber band  
An’at = etc.  
Jagger bush = thorns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYtTPLit4t4

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/23 "2015-01-25T21:49:58Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Pittsburgh has its own very distinctive accent and vocabulary —

I did it via PM but I already clued her (I believe she’s a her) in on  
“Jeet jet” and the related “no jew”

Ya just gotta love it!

😃

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**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/24 "2015-01-25T21:59:32Z")

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True, it’s been 10 yrs since I lived there, and I know Cranberry has exploded so I would imagine McKnight etc too.

Oh, and it gets pretty “slippy” in the winter with all that snow and slush! 😛

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/25 "2015-01-25T22:23:57Z")

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Thanks, everyone, for the responses so far and the PMs. I’m starting to get a good idea of what the area is like. I think I might like it, although you never know until you actually live there. It certainly can’t be the worse place I’ve ever lived, though…

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/26 "2015-01-25T23:30:31Z")

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> [@kopek](#):
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> I did it via PM but I already clued her (I believe she’s a her) in on “Jeet jet” and the related “no jew”
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> Ya just gotta love it!
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> 😃

I don’t consider that Pittsburghese. We used to say that in southwestern Ohio, and I’ve heard people from all over the midwest claim it as their own.

“Jeet?”  
“Jew?”  
“Squeet!”

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/27 "2015-01-26T00:28:23Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Hope you’re not used to driving on decent roads – Pennsylvania has been voted worst roads in the U.S., and Pittsburgh traffic is a nightmare. Be prepared for potholes!
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> And no, we do NOT have the same accent as Filthadelphia, thankyouverymuch. Don’t ever ask that in Pittsburgh. 😉 We have a [very unique one](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_English), actually. (Yes, I have the Pittsburgh accent. It’s not quite as bad as some people’s, but you can tell if you met me. And yes, I DO say “yinz”.)
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> What part of the city are you moving to? It’s a very diverse area here, so I could probably tell you more about some areas than others. My personal favorite places are PPG Place and the Strip District.
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> I’m in the North Hills area, myself.

Yah, getcherself a box ah gumbands and go ret up a room. 😃

From 1985 to 2007 I was married to someone from Squirrel Hill. We did get into dahntahn ( Downtown ) a fair bit. Her parents taught at both schools. ( one at each ). Got to Mt. Lebanon a few times a year to visit other family. It always seemed a city that wanted to get past the filth of Big Steel and didn’t know where to go.

I loved the neighborhoods, but then I’m from The City of Brotherly Love ( ahem ) and so appreciate varied neighborhoods.

Go, enjoy ! Be warned, the sun shines brightly for no more than 18 days per calendar year.

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/28 "2015-01-26T01:16:07Z")

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Bubbler = water fountain

A lot of what Ascenray lists is clearly Scottish hangover.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/29 "2015-01-26T01:49:10Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I don’t consider that Pittsburghese. We used to say that in southwestern Ohio, and I’ve heard people from all over the midwest claim it as their own.
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> “Jeet?”  
> “Jew?”  
> “Squeet!”

Could be. But its common enough to Pittsburgh that a local band (Johnny Angel and the Halos) used it as an album title.

If you want a taste of Pittsburgh and can make it all the way through, watch the movie “My Tale of Two Cities”. It rambles a bit but its a documentary of sorts and not “Inspector Gadget” (which in itself was filmed here and features the “Tomb of the Unknown Bowler”). Or watch any “Pittsburgh” special by Rick Sebak. Quite a few are around the web.

And if you watch the former (or cheat and just watch the clips on their website), one of the all-time great Dopers is the colonial guy in the blue coat. OK – its just me; but I think I’m great.

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**Author:** ![Nayna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ebca7d/32.png) [@Nayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nayna)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/30 "2015-01-26T02:28:40Z")

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I’ve been here (Beaver County) for about ten years now, and love it. My husband and I met at Slippery Rock University and settled here years later, and our daughter has never known another home. The Pittsburgh area has lots of great schools (elementary to university, public and private), world-class restaurants, beautiful architecture, museums, cultural halls, sports stadiums and teams, hospitals, waterways and hiking and biking trails and state parks, and … well, I’m babbling, but you get my point.

I find the people to be really warm and welcoming. Most of our friends here grew up here and have lots of family nearby.

The weather is a little bit of everything. No matter what you like, you’re bound to find some, but not too much, of it. It’s snowing now, for one of the first times all season. Schools are overly fond of calling “two-hour delays,” a compromise, I guess, between kids traveling on treacherous roads (or standing at frigid bus stops) and canceling school altogether, but it’s not always effective - it’s not like weather magically improves at 8:00 a.m.

We never experienced much of a “bubble,” so we didn’t have much to recover from. Housing values are steadily increasing, and unemployment is steadily decreasing.

There’s a lot of activity right now in gas and oil industries, and other than that, education, medicine, technology are all very big in Pittsburgh.

This is not the smoky steel city of the 70’s - it’s a truly promising, bright and beautiful place to be. If you decide to move here, I hope you love it, too!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/31 "2015-01-26T06:58:35Z")

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Oh, and always respect the Parking Chair. Technically, you have no legal right to set one out. But if you see someone reserving a space with a chair, DO NOT MOVE IT. That makes you a major jagoff.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/32 "2015-01-26T13:08:49Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Oh, and always respect the Parking Chair. Technically, you have no legal right to set one out. But if you see someone reserving a space with a chair, DO NOT MOVE IT. That makes you a major jagoff.

That should be familiar to anyone from a snowy place — Boston, Buffalo, Cleveland, Erie. I recall a kerfluffle a few years ago when Boston city govt tried to tell people they couldn’t use chairs to save parking.

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**Author:** ![DummyGladHands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DummyGladHands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DummyGladHands)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/33 "2015-01-26T14:25:28Z")

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I would suggest coming back with your questions when you’ve kind of narrowed it down to a couple of neighborhoods you’re considering. It’s a very varied city. I lived in the South Hills most of my life and had next to nothing in common with my Carrick or Lawrenceville cousins.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/34 "2015-01-26T14:34:06Z")

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> [@Nayna](#):
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> We never experienced much of a “bubble,” so we didn’t have much to recover from.

Many parts of the region _never_ recovered from the collapse of the steel industry. [This guy’s blog](http://snowandjaggers.blogspot.com/) will give you a nice look at the area. Yeah, there are nice things in the Pittsburgh area. It is also a reality that there is an overall shabbiness to much of it and a sense that real prosperity isn’t coming back.

> **[Iconic Towns of the Mon Valley: Brownsville, PA](http://snowandjaggers.blogspot.com/2013/12/brownsville-pa.html)**
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>  Last winter, I published a series of posts that explored some of the best known towns in the valley of the Monongahela River.  The cove...

> **[Iconic Towns of the Mon Valley: Clairton, PA](http://snowandjaggers.blogspot.com/2013/03/iconic-towns-of-mon-valley-clairton-pa.html)**
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>  This town's real moment of fame came in the 1978 film, The Deer Hunter , when one of the characters desperately tried to get an internat...

> **[Iconic Towns of the Mon Valley: McKeesport, PA](http://snowandjaggers.blogspot.com/2013/03/iconic-towns-of-mon-valley-mckeesport-pa.html)**
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>   McKeesport is situated nicely at the confluence of the Youghiogheny and Monongahela rivers.  It's the largest of the old mill towns in ...

I live here and I like it here but there is a reason that so many of our young people leave.

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**Author:** ![Mithras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mithras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mithras)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/35 "2015-01-26T15:18:59Z")

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I’m speaking more of the city specifically than the region generally, but my impression is that Pittsburgh’s more attractive to young professionals than it was a decade ago and is on track to become even more so in the next ten years. The job market can always be better, but the number of jobs downtown is increasing, UPMC continues to be a behemoth and plans to only get bigger, the colleges are what they are, and you have things like Google expanding their office space at Bakery Square to 200,000 square feet (That is 80% the size of the space at the much touted US Steel headquarters that will be built on the Civic Arena site. On the one hand, that shows how large of a presence Google has in Pittsburgh. On the other, it’s a huge indicator of how far US Steel has fallen.).

Additionally, a lot (at least for Pittsburgh) of interesting new development is going on. Bakery Square is moving along, the East Liberty transit center looks like it will be very impressive and have a huge impact on its surroundings because of the large amount of residential and retail involved in it, and there are pretty massive apartment buildings under construction in the strip district that will bring the population in that neighborhood to a couple thousand if I’m remembering right. That short list is biased toward the east end because that’s where I live, but my point is that the city itself is seeing more development than it has in a long time and a lot of the progress appears to be sustainable.

Even though the number of available units is increasing, I believe that a lot of people who haven’t lived here since 2010 or so would be taken aback by the trajectory of rent in a lot of neighborhoods. [This article](http://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-what-americans-spent-on-rent-this-year-2014-12-30?dist=lcountdown) has a map claiming that the rent for the Pittsburgh metro region went up at the third highest percent of any in the nation last year. Hopefully, as supply increases, prices will at least stabilize. In the mean time, I have friends who’ve had to lower their expectations with regard to housing in the last few years because rent is increasing faster than their incomes. I think that’s an indication that demand is increasing because more and more young people are choosing and able to stay in Pittsburgh.

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**Author:** ![Mithras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mithras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mithras)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/36 "2015-01-26T15:32:19Z")

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Having snow today and being at work and wondering if my street’s been plowed yet (it’s not), I reminded myself of another thing that makes me optimistic about Pittsburgh: the newish mayor appears to be doing a good job of modernizing a lot of the city government. The latest public-facing example is [the snow plow tracking map](http://city.temeda.com/#). You can get real time locations of all the plows as wells as markings on the streets indicating whether they’ve been treated in a time-frame you can specify.

On that note, if you’ve only ever lived in warmer places like Tucson and North Carolina, you’ll have to get used to getting around in the snow. We got a few inches last night and will get a couple more today. Some roads were terrible but many were just wet. That was not nearly enough snow to cancel schools or to justify not going in to work.

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/37 "2015-01-26T17:35:58Z")

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Well, I did grow up in Michigan, and now I live in the mountains of NC, and we get some snow, and quite a bit of ice. From what I’m seeing from a lot of you, I do think I might like it there. I work in the medical field, so it’s good to know that healthcare is booming there. Are there regional foods? All I can think of is scrapple!

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**Author:** ![DummyGladHands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DummyGladHands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DummyGladHands)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/38 "2015-01-26T17:43:21Z")

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Chipped ham. Don’t worry, you’ll love it. With BBQ sauce on buns.

Primanti’s, but I don’t much care for them. (It’s a restaurant)

Be sure to go to the Oyster House dahntahn.

Lots of yum polish food, but maybe because that’s my background.

Some vile thing called City Chicken.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/39 "2015-01-26T17:44:01Z")

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They put french fries on salads.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-pittsburgh-then/710786/40 "2015-01-26T17:52:30Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Hope you’re not used to driving on decent roads – Pennsylvania has been voted worst roads in the U.S., and Pittsburgh traffic is a nightmare. Be prepared for potholes!..

“Bumpy roads,  
Take me home,  
To the place,  
I belong,  
Pennsylvania,  
Land of potholes,  
Take me home.”

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> …And no, we do NOT have the same accent as Filthadelphia…

/me pours a big glass of wooder on youse guys’s heads.

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