# Tell Me About/Recommend Air Rifles **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-recommend-air-rifles/571756 "2011-02-17T23:24:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-recommend-air-rifles/571756/21 "2011-02-20T22:55:11Z")
I had a Daisy CO[sub]2[/sub]-powered pistol when I was a kid. Now, when you’re 10 or 12 rapid multiple shots are a lot of fun. But as I said before (maybe in the other thread), if you run out of cartridges you’re done shooting. Also, rapid-fire cools things down quite a bit. Velocities are much reduced. Finally, the gun developed a leak. I’d only et a few shots before the cartridge was expended. One more thing: Granted, a CO[sub]2[/sub] cartridge does not contain a great deal of gas; but nowadays I have a problem venting a greenhouse gas. I expend much more CO[sub]2[/sub] just breathing; but why add to it? ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-recommend-air-rifles/571756/22 "2011-02-20T23:37:48Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I had a Daisy CO[sub]2[/sub]-powered pistol when I was a kid. Now, when you’re 10 or 12 rapid multiple shots are a lot of fun. But as I said before (maybe in the other thread), if you run out of cartridges you’re done shooting. Also, rapid-fire cools things down quite a bit. Velocities are much reduced. Finally, the gun developed a leak. I’d only et a few shots before the cartridge was expended. One more thing: Granted, a CO[sub]2[/sub] cartridge does not contain a great deal of gas; but nowadays I have a problem venting a greenhouse gas. I expend much more CO[sub]2[/sub] just breathing; but why add to it? QB-78 (in .177 or.22) is not a multi-shot pistol, but a single-shot rifle, a copy of one of the classic American pellet guns that is no longer available. Cooling isn’t an issue, as you still single-load a pellet each time by hand. I’ve had one for years, no leak yet. Cheap items will always break quickly and easily, and it doesn’t get cheaper than low-end consumer Daisy. Co2 carts are cheap enough, and you get 30 fairly powerful (generally about the same as most 10-pumpers, without the pump-pump-pump-pump-pump-pump-pump-pump-pump-pump), very accurate shots per cart. Unless you’ve got the finances of an unemployed teenager, there’s no reason to run out of carts. I also like that I never have to worry about ruining a scope like I did on my BSA Supersport. I can’t argue the greenhouse gas aspect, if using that much gas bothers you, yeah, you shouldn’t shoot it. They used to have full-auto bb guns that used cans of freon as a propellant. Think about that one a bit. :eek: The QB-78 isn’t for everyone, but mine is so accurate and fun to shoot I like to tell folks about it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-recommend-air-rifles/571756/23 "2011-02-20T23:49:11Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > They used to have full-auto bb guns that used cans of freon as a propellant. Think about that one a bit. :eek: I’ve seen those being used with compressed air and a long, coiled hose. When I was a kid I had a styrofoam glider (I think it was called the Shrake – could’ve been Shrike – but I’m not sure) that used Freon as a propellant. I froze my thumb a few times with it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-recommend-air-rifles/571756.md?page=1)