# Tell me about ties/draws in baseball. **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 8, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-ties-draws-in-baseball/754349 "2016-05-08T23:36:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-ties-draws-in-baseball/754349/21 "2016-05-13T05:50:08Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > According to current Yankees raincheck policy, no refunds are given for a game not played. You can either attend the rescheduled game as part of a double-header, or exchange the raincheck for a same-priced ticket within the next 12 months. So they don’t actually lose any money. In fact, since many people may not be able to reschedule they will make money. I imagine there were similar policies in place in the past. Not to mention you don’t get concessions back as a fan, either. I think most clubs will do something for you on the parking, however. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-ties-draws-in-baseball/754349/22 "2016-05-13T12:14:50Z")
In fairness–if the ballpark opens at all on a game day, but an official game is not completed, the stadium operations expenses are still about as much as they would be with a game. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-ties-draws-in-baseball/754349/23 "2016-05-13T12:38:42Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > In fairness–if the ballpark opens at all on a game day, but an official game is not completed, the stadium operations expenses are still about as much as they would be with a game. An MLB team’s primary expense is exempt-employee (mostly player) salaries, which are an indirect cost. The margin they’re making on opening the stadium is huge; operating the place is a fraction of what they pull in in ticket sales. It has to be, so they can pay the salaries. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-ties-draws-in-baseball/754349/24 "2016-05-13T13:26:35Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > An MLB team’s primary expense is exempt-employee (mostly player) salaries, which are an indirect cost. The margin they’re making on opening the stadium is huge; operating the place is a fraction of what they pull in in ticket sales. It has to be, so they can pay the salaries. Remember that for a modern MLB team, gate is not the majority, or even single-largest, revenue stream. Even if stadium operations were magically free and MLB organizations had no other costs at all, total ticket sales would only cover something like…[rough scribbles]…65% of player payroll. Looking at the intersections of profit and hassle, I’m pretty sure they’d rather see clear skies on all their home dates, as much as the fans. ---
**Author:** ![GunnarFranz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/da6949/32.png) [@GunnarFranz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GunnarFranz)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-ties-draws-in-baseball/754349/25 "2016-06-03T13:39:11Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Games in Japan’s NPB may end in ties after 12 innings (or 15, in the first seven games of the Japan Series). Last year every team finished the season with from one to five ties. This worked just fine. > In MLB, > How about [Astros at Reds, June 30, 2005](http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CIN/CIN200506300.shtml?mobile=false)? That game was completely replaced by a future game (as you can see in both team’s season records,) but it does count because the stats weren’t wiped. Kudos. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-ties-draws-in-baseball/754349/26 "2016-06-03T15:22:44Z")
> [@GunnarFranz](#): > > That game was completely replaced by a future game (as you can see in both team’s season records,) but it does count because the stats weren’t wiped. Kudos. No kidding? Aren’t they supposed to pick up the game where it left off, after the 7th inning? ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-ties-draws-in-baseball/754349/27 "2016-06-03T15:46:48Z")
The game at issue was in 2005, before the rule change wherein tied and rain-interrupted games became suspended games. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-ties-draws-in-baseball/754349.md?page=1)