# Tell me about your secret music - What music should we know more about?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 8, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316 "2005-10-08T16:10:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/1 "2005-10-08T16:10:58Z")

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I have very eclectic musical tastes and I’m always looking for new musical experiences - Tell me about your secret music - What old or new musical genres or groups should we know more about?

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**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/2 "2005-10-08T16:19:56Z")

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The Blue James Band: [http://www.bluejamesband.com/](http://www.bluejamesband.com/)

These guys are great musicians, currently unsigned, travelling the Southwest USA promoting their self-produced CD. The music is excellent, and the bass player is fantastic. Obviously influenced by Victor Wooten, this guy has to be experienced in person!

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/3 "2005-10-08T16:36:24Z")

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Get your favorite English cast recording or movie soundtrack in a foreign (non-English) language if possible: [www.castalbumdb.com](http://www.castalbumdb.com) is a good place to start.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/4 "2005-10-08T16:36:46Z")

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[Red Hot Jazz](http://www.redhotjazz.com)

Being a RealAudio compendium of classic jazz and jazz-related pop music of the 1920s and early '30s, much of it obscure and a good bit of it unavailable on commercial CDs.

This site, based in The Netherlands, is a good example of the kind of musical retrospective that generally can’t be done in the USA due to our restrictive copyright laws.

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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/5 "2005-10-08T16:41:15Z")

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Michael Penn, amazing pop,

Naked Funk, sort of acid jazz style techno with a definite r&b influence on some songs.

Silly Rabit, Dirt is the name of their only self released CD, if you can find it get it, fantastic party music with elements of funk, hard rock, hip hop and reggae.

Tom Waits, not excatly secret but if you havent actually gone out and listened to his stuff you dont know what you are missing.

Thievery Corporation, more technoish stuff, its a blend of 2 dj’s, a live band, and singers from all over the planet, saw them live a few months ago and they had 8 singers on tour with them. world music meets techno? doesnt do it justice.

M.C. 900foot Jesus, hip hop meets jazz, this guy puts out some great and very original tunes.

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**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/6 "2005-10-08T17:05:20Z")

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Video game music. 😃

I have to admit, some of them aren’t enjoyable unless you’ve played the game, but they’re great for long drives because they’re generally composed to be nonintrusive and mood-setting.

Personally, I think the games with the best soundtracks have been:  
Chrono Trigger (a lot of the themes are on the repetitive side, but they have a nice New Age feel to them)  
Chrono Cross (many overworld themes borrow from CT)  
Final Fantasy VI (the opera scene and final ending montage especially)  
Legend of Mana

I also find J-Pop, especially opening/closing themes of anime, strangely addictive. At least those songs don’t annoy me nearly as much as, say, Britney Spears. 😃

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**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/7 "2005-10-08T17:50:00Z")

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Aberfeldy, a Scottish indie/folk band. They’re great, even better live.

[Link](http://www.aberfeldys.com/)

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**Author:** ![vl\_mungo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@vl\_mungo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vl_mungo)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/8 "2005-10-08T19:10:09Z")

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Heaping obscurity on top of semi-obscurity, if you are a fan of…

**Arcade Fire** you should check out [Wolf Parade](http://www.newmusiccanada.com/genres/artist.cfm?Band_Id=11211)

**Neko Case** you should check out [Carolyn Mark](http://www.newmusiccanada.com/genres/artist.cfm?Band_Id=5904)

**Modest Mouse** you should check out [The Weakerthans](http://www.newmusiccanada.com/genres/artist.cfm?Band_Id=5733)

**The Minutemen** you should check out [The Doers](http://www.newmusiccanada.com/genres/artist.cfm?Band_Id=9950)

**The Rezillos** you should check out [You Say Party! We Say Die!](http://www.newmusiccanada.com/genres/artist.cfm?Band_Id=12534)

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**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/9 "2005-10-08T19:16:39Z")

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I think **The Deftones** are one of the most consistently good bands that don’t get enough attention.

I’ve recently heard a few songs by **Deadsy** , and they’d be up your alley if you enjoy either **Marilyn Manson** or **Orgy** , or both.

My standby recommendation to almost everyone is **Iron and Wine**. Mellow, acoustic, folksy… and good.

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/10 "2005-10-08T21:15:08Z")

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> [@dotchan](#):
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> Video game music. 😃
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> I have to admit, some of them aren’t enjoyable unless you’ve played the game, but they’re great for long drives because they’re generally composed to be nonintrusive and mood-setting.
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> Personally, I think the games with the best soundtracks have been:  
> Chrono Trigger (a lot of the themes are on the repetitive side, but they have a nice New Age feel to them)  
> Chrono Cross (many overworld themes borrow from CT)  
> Final Fantasy VI (the opera scene and final ending montage especially)  
> Legend of Mana
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> I also find J-Pop, especially opening/closing themes of anime, strangely addictive. At least those songs don’t annoy me nearly as much as, say, Britney Spears. 😃

Outlaws has to have one of the best soundtracks. I miss that game.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/11 "2005-10-08T21:38:39Z")

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Two absolutely must-hear albums:

Ulver, _Perdition City_  
Death, _Sound of Perseverance_

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2005, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/12 "2005-10-09T00:25:07Z")

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Dropkick Murphys.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2005, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/13 "2005-10-09T00:40:46Z")

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_Stinking Lizaveta_ is an instrumental trio from Philly that does a sort of improvisational hard rock. Their albums aren’t that great but there live shows have phenomenal energy. They are incredibly talented and their music spans a lot of genres: metal, surf music, jazz, etc. check 'em out if they come to your town

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2005, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/14 "2005-10-09T01:17:25Z")

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God, where do I begin? 😃

I’ve been listening to [the Dresden Dolls](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dresden_Dolls) recently—they decribe themselve as “brechtian punk cabaret.”

There’s also Apocalyptica and Rasputina—a couple of cello rock bands, but very different from each other. (If they were used in the soundtrack for a “Steampunk” movie, Rasputina would mostly be for the social settings and “coming of age” montages; and Apocalyptica would be for the scenes where coal-fired mechanical juggernauts are tearing each other apart.)

Soundtrack composers [Michael Giacchino](http://www.michaelgiacchino.com/mp3LIST.html) (try “Call of Duty” and “Op. Market Garden” on his sample page—yow) and [Yoko Kanno](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoko_Kanno) are almost mainstream these days, but still deserve mention. (And HOW!)

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/15 "2005-10-09T02:21:21Z")

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A little arabesque: Mavi, Mavi by Ibrahim Tatlises (warning: this is about the only arabesque album of the few that I’ve heard that doesn’t bite). This album is quite kickin’, and you should play it loud. Of course, nobody else will probably like it, so be advised. And of course it’s in Turkish, but that makes it better. A must hear before you die.

Johnny Winter And, by Johnny Winter And. Hard rocking, but obscure enough to make it enjoyable, and the original version (I think) of Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo.

Hamburger Concerto by Focus. Some lute, some harpsichord, some progressive jazz.

Tabernakel, by Focus guitarist Jan Akkerman. See above.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2005, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/16 "2005-10-09T05:17:03Z")

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Anyone who’s looking for interesting female singer-songwriter-musicians (to go on the same shelf with Kate Bush, Jane Siberry and Tori Amos) might take a listen to

[**Happy Rhodes**](http://wretchawry.com/happy/samples)

There are songs from each of her albums at that page (with her permission) and she also has a MySpace page:

[Happy’s MySpace page](http://www.myspace.com/happyrhodes)

Her [official web site](http://auntiesocialmusic.com).

I’m continually puzzled as to why she wasn’t discovered years ago. She has 10 excellent albums, a unique style of music, a beyond gorgeous voice that ranges from early Kate Bush highs to Annie Lennox lows, is beautiful, charming, and puts on a great live show. I fear it’s her name (and it is her real name), but I hate to think that people wouldn’t even want to sample a few songs because of something so shallow. I think radio programmers just look at the name on the CD and toss it aside, never even bothering to give a listen. If she were known for her music and amazing voice, her name would be as accepted and considered as normal as Norah or Kate or Tori. It’s sad and frustrating to me.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2005, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/17 "2005-10-09T05:19:41Z")

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MY main problem is I am not sure what counts as obscure anymore. Bands I used to love and thought no one knew about are now being played on main stream rock stations, and selling out local concerts. (Are the Fiery Furnaces still obscure or did Blueberry Boat make them well known? I don’t know anymore) Two goups I love that I can say ARE obscure(ish) are **Gogol Bordello** and **Janet Klein and her Parlor Boys**. Two totally different types of music, two bands best experianced live. [Gogol Bordello](http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=&sql=11:qeazqjkqojfa) is Gypsy Punk Rock, and features the most insanly talented accordian and fiddle players I have ever had the pleasure of watching. [Janet Klein](http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:sxkviknabb19~T1) is 1920’s style Jazz and features more great musicians than it is fair to have in a single band, including the inimitable Brad Kay (a man who made me wish I had actually stuck with my piano lessons).

Seek out both bands, thier albums are good too.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2005, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/18 "2005-10-09T05:37:11Z")

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Say, how well known are [Jill Tracy,](http://www.jilltracy.com/) [Madeline Peyroux,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeline_Peyroux) and [Grey DeLisle?](http://www.greydelisle.com/albumGhost.html)

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**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2005, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/19 "2005-10-09T06:52:48Z")

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For anyone who enjoys intelligent, contemplative music, I cannot reccomend [Tim Story](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000058T8A/103-3522167-3494209?v=glance) enough.

> [@John Diliberto](#):
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> Tim Story is one of those artists who exists in a natural state of repose, whose music is born from a point that is deep and still, gaining resonance and contour as it rises from the bottom of the well. Story has defined ambient chamber music since the early '80s, and Shadowplay continues down that path with music that **hovers at the borders of darkness and joy**. Story extends his keyboard-based palette with oboe and cello, giving his compositions an even warmer hue. What sets him apart from the likes of Kevin Kendle and Michael Hoppé is Story’s resistance toward neoclassical nostalgia. With Story, there’s always a sense that something ominous could be lurking around the corner, like a shark hanging at the edge of an intoxicating coral reef. That element of foreboding is particularly apparent on “Intemperate,” as Dieter Moebius from the quirky German band Cluster adds subtle abstracted electronics. Like most Story albums, Shadowplay is as haunting as that first moment when one awakens from a dream–and just as elusive. --John Diliberto

Tim’s music is often starkly beautiful and haunting. There is a human perceptiveness there that belies it’s usually fairly simple structure. I love it!

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**Author:** ![Mississippienne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mississippienne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mississippienne)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2005, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-your-secret-music-what-music-should-we-know-more-about/325316/20 "2005-10-09T08:04:38Z")

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Goth metal gods **Type O Negative** ([http://www.typeonegative.net/](http://www.typeonegative.net/)) are so good it’s painful. Peter Steele’s voice is mindblowing, it’s so deep and epic, and the music is equally unforgettable. Don’t be fooled by their goth veneer – Type O Negative’s dark lyrics of desperation have a hefty dose of black humor. Check out _Everyone I Love is Dead_: “Seems three years/Or maybe four/someone drops dead/whom I adore…/Godammit.”

Type O Negative is probably the best rock band out there that no one’s ever heard of. Some highlights:

– The classic tribute (and parody) of morose Goth girls, _Black No. 1_.  
– Because there’s not enough love songs about incest, check out _Stay Out of My Dreams_.  
– Peter Steele supplies the voice of Satan in _Black Sabbath_.

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