# Tell me again why Bernie Sanders isn't electable? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 8, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014 "2015-06-08T22:36:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/241 "2015-07-28T18:24:11Z")
So her honesty ratings are based on a Republican smear campaign that is somehow more effective than smear campaigns against other candidates because? Randomness? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/242 "2015-07-28T18:39:34Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > So her honesty ratings are based on a Republican smear campaign that is somehow more effective than smear campaigns against other candidates because? Randomness? It can be more effective as it’s more concentrated. She’s also better known. If you are asked to rate the honesty of a Politico you know nothing about , you hardly rate him/her a 1. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/243 "2015-07-28T18:48:16Z")
And it’s more concentrated becuase it’s a target rich environment. Did the Republicans make the Clinton Foundation not report some of its donations? Did they make her use a private email account and then delete half the emails? Sigh, we’re getting off track here. Sanders is an honest guy. Clinton is just not. I won’t try to tackle the claim that she’s as honest as an average politician, but she’s easily the most dishonest in the Democratic field. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/244 "2015-07-28T18:49:42Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > But I’m still sticking to my guns on the prediction that Sanders won’t be allowed to win the nomination. If Clinton looks like she won’t win it, Joe Biden or Liz Warren will step in. Remote chance of Al Gore. Clinton is teetering now. If you see 2 or 3 national polls showing her trailing in the polls, either against Sanders or in trial heats against Republicans, Biden’s getting off the fence and Warren’s going to start rethinking her decision not to run. On WHAT are you basing this? Nothing I have read even remotely suggests that Biden is serious about even sticking his foot in the water, let alone diving into the nomination pool. Warren has gone on record _firmly_ stating that she is not running. Al Gore??? I’LL probably run for President before Al Gore does again. In Bernie continues to get traction (it definitely helps that he’s speaking to _sell-out_ crowds) the Dems will take notice and alter their stance accordingly. They may be stubborn, but they’re not going to argue with the weather. After all, they’re not the Republicans. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/245 "2015-07-28T19:01:16Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Did the Republicans make the Clinton Foundation not report some of its donations? Did they make her use a private email account and then delete half the emails? as far as > **[Did the Clinton Foundation keep its promises? A PolitiFact scorecard](https://www.politifact.com/article/2015/may/07/did-clinton-foundation-keep-its-promises-politifac/)** > > As they say at the ballpark, you can’t tell the players without a scorecard. When Hillary Clinton was nominated as secre Which was not illegal, and if hadnt been Hillary no one would have known or cared. So, neither was a serious or egregious issue, and both blown entirely out of proportion by the GOP hate machine. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/246 "2015-07-28T19:06:41Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > On WHAT are you basing this? Nothing I have read even remotely suggests that Biden is serious about even sticking his foot in the water, let alone diving into the nomination pool. Warren has gone on record _firmly_ stating that she is not running. > > Al Gore??? I’LL probably run for President before Al Gore does again. > > In Bernie continues to get traction (it definitely helps that he’s speaking to _sell-out_ crowds) the Dems will take notice and alter their stance accordingly. They may be stubborn, but they’re not going to argue with the weather. > > After all, they’re not the Republicans. 🆒 Think for a second about why the field is so small. Because Clinton is unbeatable right? Until she isn’t, at which point the field won’t be small anymore. I think that if O’Malley was the one taking her down the DNC would just get behind O’Malley. But they are not going to get behind McGovern 2.0 unless it’s too late to do anything else. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/247 "2015-07-28T19:08:08Z")
And I don’t think many of you must believe some of the stuff you are saying about Clinton. If Clinton is just being smeared, then doesn’t that mean that Sanders’ support is based primarily on Republican lies? And if so, isn’t Sanders helping the Republicans by running, and thus Democrats should not support him? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/248 "2015-07-28T20:13:26Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > If Clinton is just being smeared, then doesn’t that mean that Sanders’ support is based primarily on Republican lies? No. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/249 "2015-07-28T20:37:36Z")
What is it based on? Why do Sanders’ fans prefer him to Clinton? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/250 "2015-07-28T20:47:01Z")
People prefer him to her. I certainly do. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/251 "2015-07-28T20:51:59Z")
Here’s one reason he might not get elected – poor communications. I just got an email from their campaign inviting me to one of their first national organizing meetings – more than 3000 across the country or so they claim. There was a map with all the red dots, but from what I can see, there are no addresses attached to the dots, and no meeting times. They requested an RSVP to the meeting I plan to attend, but there was no way to submit one. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/252 "2015-07-28T21:48:37Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > What is it based on? Why do Sanders’ fans prefer him to Clinton? Sanders is more left wing, more liberal. He was wild ideas which sound great. Free Tuition! Lower Taxes for You, higher taxes for Them! Getting Big Money Out of Politics!\* \*Which requires the _Democracy Is for People constitutional amendment to overturn the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision._ which aint gonna happen, so that’s pie in the sky. Mind you, some of these ideas, if brought more mainstream, may be great. The DISCLOSE Act redux would be a hard sell, but not impossible. Ect. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/253 "2015-07-28T21:52:57Z")
The other half is that voters are yearning for straight talk. They are tired of the same old political BS. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/254 "2015-07-28T22:14:27Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > What is it based on? Why do Sanders’ fans prefer him to Clinton? Because they agree with his views more and think he would be a better president. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/255 "2015-07-28T22:46:49Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > … If the Republicans nominate someone that the public can be comfortable with, they will win. If they nominate someone scary … I have a hard time envisioning a viable Republican candidate who is not scary. I think there might be two ot three of them out of the, what, two dozen, but no one gives them any kind of a chance. Even nominating David Koch straight up would be less scary than most of the declared murder of Republican candidates we have actually heard of. my heartfelt apologies to any corvids I might have offended with my remarks ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/256 "2015-07-28T22:47:48Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The other half is that voters are yearning for straight talk. They are tired of the same old political BS. They still vote for Republicans, dont they? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![davida03801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@davida03801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davida03801)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/257 "2015-07-28T23:32:34Z")
There are not enough college towns in the US to elect him. That is why. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/258 "2015-07-28T23:46:51Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Here’s one reason he might not get elected – poor communications. > > I just got an email from their campaign inviting me to one of their first national organizing meetings – more than 3000 across the country or so they claim. There was a map with all the red dots, but from what I can see, there are no addresses attached to the dots, and no meeting times. They requested an RSVP to the meeting I plan to attend, but there was no way to submit one. Hmmm. For me the process was simple and straightforward. Try [this link.](https://go.berniesanders.com/page/event/search_simple?source=web_full_nav) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/259 "2015-07-29T03:04:11Z")
> [@Mr.Duality](#): > > Hmmm. For me the process was simple and straightforward. > > Try [this link.](https://go.berniesanders.com/page/event/search_simple?source=web_full_nav) Thanks. That’s the kind of link I expected to find, but didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2015, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014/260 "2015-07-29T04:23:41Z")
OK, umm, someone has titled their event “Begin the Bern”. This could get bad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-again-why-bernie-sanders-isnt-electable/722014.md?page=14)