# Tell me , is it possible for a women to rape a man?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [May 21, 2004, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422 "2004-05-21T20:18:26Z")
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### Author:  [@Starguard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starguard)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/1 "2004-05-21T20:18:26Z")
Some people believe that its very possible. I myself find this very hard to imagine. If its at all possible, can anyone here cite this?
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### Author:  [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/2 "2004-05-21T20:25:48Z")
You’re going to have to define rape. Criminal sexual conduct can involve a wide range of actions from forced penetration to copping a feel. A woman could, under threat or intimidation, stimulate a man and make him erect—why not?
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### Author:  [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/3 "2004-05-21T20:30:13Z")
Yes, it’s possible. First, it’s possible to force some men into having an erection. I won’t go into details. Second, there are devices known as “strap-ons” which are generally used for consensual sex, but which can be used for rape. Third, a woman can be an accessory to rape, if one man raped another man.
I’m NOT gonna go googling for cites. However, male on male rape does happen and not just in prison. It’s no joke.
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### Author:  [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/4 "2004-05-21T20:51:18Z")
Yes they can and it is _extremely_ under-reported (according to rape crisis centres). It very difficult for a man to get taken seriously be authorities, friends and family. It can also be difficult to prosecute in some juristictions that have forced vaginal intercorse as “rape” and forced anal intercourse as “sodomy”, but are a bit dodgy on what happens if a woman rapes a man via vaginal intercourse.
Some men become sexually aroused with an erection and/or ejaculated during the sexual assault – normal, involuntary physiological reactions. They do NOT mean that the victim enjoyed the experience. However, this further adds to confusion and self-blame (along with the self-blame of not being able to properly defend oneself, etc.)
There is a medical jouranl article called “Male Rape: Offenders and Victims” by N.A. Groth, but it’s about 20 years old. Most of what you find about male rape is male-on-male.
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### Author:  [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/5 "2004-05-21T20:59:11Z")
I remember a scene in a movie with that same situation, IIRC.
I can’t for the life of me remember what it was, but he was tied to a chair, and she was having at it after forcing him to erection, and another bad guy came in and blew her head off mid-…stroke? (I guess?). Seems like she was wearing some sort of vinyl dress or something with nothing underneath, and she just flung it off and went to.
Anyone know what movie that is because now it’s driving me nuts? Seemed to be multiple bad guys after the same thing/person. 😕
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### Author:  [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/6 "2004-05-21T21:08:56Z")
> [@harmless](#):
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> I remember a scene in a movie with that same situation, IIRC.
> I can’t for the life of me remember what it was, but he was tied to a chair, and she was having at it after forcing him to erection, and another bad guy came in and blew her head off mid-…stroke? (I guess?). Seems like she was wearing some sort of vinyl dress or something with nothing underneath, and she just flung it off and went to.
> Anyone know what movie that is because now it’s driving me nuts? Seemed to be multiple bad guys after the same thing/person.
The movie you’re thinking of is **Thursday.** Thomas Jane is raped by Paulina Porizkova.
> [@killjoy555](#):
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> I used paypal to pay for this forum’s subscription , and was waiting for the thing to clear. Paypal payments have to be cleared.
>
> So during this time I was banned from the forums. Ok, I’m fine with that, but they kept my money after the check cleared. Now they just won’t answer my e-mails.
>
> Is there anything I can do? What would stop Straight Dope from taking people?s money and then banning them?
Well, whatever you do, don’t rape them. :dubious:
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### Author:  [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/7 "2004-05-21T21:23:17Z")
Geez, maybe some of that should be in a spoiler for anyone who might’ve wanted to watch it? ☹
:eek: \<----look into my eyes.
Forgot what you have read!
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### Author:  [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/8 "2004-05-21T21:27:35Z")
> [@harmless](#):
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> Geez, maybe some of that should be in a spoiler for anyone who might’ve wanted to watch it? ☹
Apologies. I would never have thought to spoiler-tag a six year old movie. If any wandering mods come by to clean up the off-topic thread, maybe he/she can add a spoiler tag to mine.
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### Author:  [@harmless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmless)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/9 "2004-05-21T21:40:54Z")
No, no! I meant \*my \* description of the scene. I meant that last post of mine to be an immediate follow-up to my first, I just took too long to hit submit.
Thanks for the answer though! 🙂
Now that I remember more of the movie, I don’t think the chances of anyone else wanting to watch it will be all that great. 😃
It sucked! :-p
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### Author:  [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/10 "2004-05-21T21:52:51Z")
There was a TV-movie about a man being raped (this was male-on-male) called [The Rape of Richard Beck](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089882/). I’ve never seen it, but apparently it was the first of its kind for network TV (or so I have been led to believe).
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### Author:  [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/11 "2004-05-21T21:58:13Z")
While I’m at it, I’d like to link to the [IMDb user comments](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089882/usercomments) about the Richard Beck TV-movie. Boy, do they express attitudes that _beg_ to be discussed further . . . :eek:
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### Author:  [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/12 "2004-05-21T22:08:17Z")
Referring to §3121 PA Crimes Code, rape is defined as intercourse (1) by forcible cumpulsion (2) threat of forcible compulsion that would prevent resistance by a person of reasonable resolution (3) who is unconscious or where the person knows that the complaintant is unaware that the sexual intercourse is occurring, et.al.
Although to some it might be a fantasy-come-true, what if the female supervisor demands that a male subordinate submit to her demands? Circumstances associated with such could account for (1) or (2). Given the male propensity for nocturnal erections, I’m sure that one or more females have ‘helped themselves’ to the member of their sleeping partner, and although legally meeting the test of (3), I’d doubt any complaintants would complain. I never did. 😃
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### Author:  [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/13 "2004-05-21T22:14:11Z")
> [@killjoy555](#):
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> Oh, I was rape by a woman once, who was not my wife. Well I consider it rape, since there was no way I could stop her. My wife did not believe me though…
And you were banned for trolling? I’m shocked. Really, I am. :rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/14 "2004-05-21T22:43:42Z")
I’ve heard rape as being as loosely defined as “the unwanted insertion of any foreign object into any bodily cavity.” Note, however, that this was one of those 9th grade health lectures that seem to be as much about scare tactics as actual legal facts.
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### Author:  [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/15 "2004-05-21T23:17:19Z")
Did I miss something? How are you guys quoting **killjoy** when I don’t see any of his posts in this thread?
Or has **Guadere** wielded her Mass Prune sword again?
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### Author:  [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/16 "2004-05-21T23:26:21Z")
killjoy mis-posted. He had wanted to start a new thread (something about PayPal and another message board), but somehow posted that on this thread by mistake. He requested that his post be removed.
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### Author:  [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/17 "2004-05-21T23:28:58Z")
Eh, in the UK, the legal definition of rape:
```auto
(1) A person (A) commits an offence if-
(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,
(b) B does not consent to the penetration, and
(c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents.
```
[Sexual Offences Act 2003](http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts2003/30042--b.htm#1)
Unless your female grows a penis, aint gonna happen. Assaults with dildoes and such are covered under S2
```auto
2 Assault by penetration
(1) A person (A) commits an offence if-
(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina or anus of another person (B) with a part of his body or anything else,
(b) the penetration is sexual,
(c) B does not consent to the penetration, and
(d) A does not reasonably believe that B consents.
```
which carries the same maximum penalty as rape, imprisonment for life.
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### Author:  [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/18 "2004-05-21T23:32:27Z")
It’s possible, although very rare, for a woman to be convicted of rape if she actively premeditates and assists a man in commiting a rape…I remember a case a year or two ago where a woman was convicted as such, having held down the victim by her shoulders (they were rival lovers of another man, or some such). Can’t find it by google, though.
However, I’ve found this interesting link: [http://www.fact.on.ca/news/news0208/lt020816.htm](http://www.fact.on.ca/news/news0208/lt020816.htm)
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### Author:  [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2004, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/19 "2004-05-21T23:35:03Z")
Acck, I was typing at the same time as **Tabby\_Cat** - I’ve no idea how the 2003 act may affect what I described.
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### Author:  [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)
#### Post date: [May 22, 2004, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-is-it-possible-for-a-women-to-rape-a-man/246422/20 "2004-05-22T00:23:03Z")
You are indeed right, an accomplice may be charged with rape if she aids or abets the man in raping another. But it’s quite rare, I believe… one such case was Cogan v Leak, where the man abetted a mentally disabled man in raping his wife.
However, she cannot rape another by herself.
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