# Tell me why VEEP isn't the worse show in history. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 1, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884 "2019-04-01T20:02:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Marine\_One](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marine_one/32/3461_2.png) [@Marine\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marine_One)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/1 "2019-04-01T20:02:28Z")
Tried to watch the season opener on Sunday. I guess I’m just not a cool, hip judge of cutting edge humor, but it’s still the most awful show ever. Still the same idiots screaming for no reason. Don’t care if they’re Democrats or Republicans or whatever, but I’d rather watch Modern Family. Satire on Trump? Don’t care, still stinks. What am I missing by a mile? Apparently, I’m alone in this. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/2 "2019-04-01T20:08:14Z")
Why would anyone care to get you to like a show that you don’t like? Part of the humor comes from knowing the characters so that will be lost on you but mostly it’s not your style of humor. Who the fuck cares? Move on. I can’t sit through more than ten minutes of Big Bang Theory but it’s one of the most popular and beloved sitcoms of all time. So it’s not my style. Thankfully I am not forced at gun point to watch it and there is so much other content now that I can coexist with it in my world. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/3 "2019-04-01T20:12:47Z")
I’m not saying it’s good, but on a scale of sucking throughout TV history, it scores pretty low. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/4 "2019-04-01T20:12:59Z")
I don’t know if it’s the worst show in history but I haven’t watched it since season 1 myself. I am a fan of the actors in it but the show itself just isn’t clicking for me. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/5 "2019-04-01T20:16:36Z")
> [@](#): > > Tell me why VEEP isn’t the worse show in history. No. If you don’t like it, you don’t like it. Don’t watch it. Just because I like it doesn’t mean you have to like it, nor vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![Disheavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Disheavel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disheavel)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/6 "2019-04-01T20:20:47Z")
> [@Marine\_One](#): > > Satire on Trump? Don’t care, still stinks. You realize that it premiered during Obama’s first term, right? You should start in Season 1 so that you understand how they got where they are now. Most cult comedies (The Good Place, Schitts Creek, Derry Girls, Arrested Development) these days are not based upon stand alone episodes like Modern Family. They have long character and story arcs rather than 22 minutes of jokes around 1 topic before moving to the next event in the following week. That being said, I do like some shorter form comedies- Parks & Rec is pretty good, but I can’t stand the Office. So to each their own. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/7 "2019-04-01T21:13:05Z")
Because there’s still the Gong Show and a bunch of “reality” TV shows that are worse. (ETA: I’ve never watched it, so I have no idea if I like it or not. But the above is still the correct answer for most “worst TV show ever” comments. ;)) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/8 "2019-04-01T21:15:53Z")
> [@Marine\_One](#): > > **Tell me why VEEP isn’t the worse show in history.** Four words: “[My Mother the Car](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riOcOgUE-W8)”. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/9 "2019-04-01T21:20:13Z")
Hey, some people love Arrested Development. I think it’s juvenile and stupid. To each his own. As for VEEP: The show has some real laugh out loud bits, and the cast is made up of solid veterans. We watched it for a number of seasons, but finally abandoned it when the writers decided to have Dreyfus’s character refer to Queen Elizabeth as a cunt. It’s not that we’re prudes by any stretch of the imagination; we just thought that it seemed like the writers were running out of original material if they had to resort to that. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/10 "2019-04-01T21:22:04Z")
> [@Disheavel](#): > > > [@Marine\_One](#): > > > > Satire on Trump? Don’t care, still stinks. > > You realize that it premiered during Obama’s first term, right? You should start in Season 1 so that you understand how they got where they are now. Most cult comedies (The Good Place, Schitts Creek, Derry Girls, Arrested Development) these days are not based upon stand alone episodes like Modern Family. They have long character and story arcs rather than 22 minutes of jokes around 1 topic before moving to the next event in the following week. Second that Trump is not really the butt of the jokes. (I don’t think he was mentioned even obliquely in the season premiere.) And like Seinfeld, really none of the characters are meant to be likable. I find it hilarious and even more so on subsequent viewings. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/11 "2019-04-01T21:30:04Z")
It’s got a good beat and you can dance to it. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/12 "2019-04-01T22:10:49Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Four words: “[My Mother the Car](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riOcOgUE-W8)”. Four Words: [Heil, Honey I’m Home](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heil_Honey_I%27m_Home!). ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/13 "2019-04-01T22:23:31Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Hey, some people love Arrested Development. I think it’s juvenile and stupid. To each his own. > > As for VEEP: The show has some real laugh out loud bits, and the cast is made up of solid veterans. We watched it for a number of seasons, but finally abandoned it when the writers decided to have Dreyfus’s character refer to Queen Elizabeth as a cunt. It’s not that we’re prudes by any stretch of the imagination; we just thought that it seemed like the writers were running out of original material if they had to resort to that. You abandoned a show you enjoyed because of one joke that fell flat for you? Humor is a risk, and no one bats 1000 I like the show quite a bit. It’s probably not for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/14 "2019-04-01T22:23:45Z")
For me the show lost it last season after Serena left the Presidency. It seemed like the same show but nothing worked. Without the background of her being in the actual offices, the pettiness overwhelmed. I stopped watching after a few episodes because it was in fact too awful to bother with. I haven’t seen this year’s episode, but my guess is that it’s a terrible place to start watching the show. Go back a few years and start there. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/15 "2019-04-01T22:43:51Z")
To be honest, I don’t find shouting and swearing (even creative swearing) to be inherently funny. But I do like humour where people’s well-intentioned plans fall apart. “Yes, Minister” and “Yes, Prime Minister” are sentimental favourites for me. P.S. Whatever happened to the word “worst”? I used to like that word. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/16 "2019-04-01T23:42:38Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Four Words: [Heil, Honey I’m Home](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heil_Honey_I%27m_Home!). Four Words: The Chevy Chase Show. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/17 "2019-04-02T01:07:39Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > You abandoned a show you enjoyed because of one joke that fell flat for you? Humor is a risk, and no one bats 1000 > I like the show quite a bit. It’s probably not for everyone. Yes. Yes I did. Bully for you. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/18 "2019-04-02T01:19:39Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > For me the show lost it last season after Serena left the Presidency. It seemed like the same show but nothing worked. Without the background of her being in the actual offices, the pettiness overwhelmed. I stopped watching after a few episodes because it was in fact too awful to bother with. > > I haven’t seen this year’s episode, but my guess is that it’s a terrible place to start watching the show. Go back a few years and start there. Yeah, that’s about the point I lost interest, or rather it stopped being must-see TV. The seasons up to that are gold, though, IMHO. There’s very little that keeps my attention for more than a couple episodes on TV, so it’s in good company. The only other (comedic) shows I’ve really followed in the past ten-fifteen years other than this are Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, It’s Always Sunny…, and Arrested Development. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/19 "2019-04-02T04:18:01Z")
Because Gary. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-why-veep-isnt-the-worse-show-in-history/831884/20 "2019-04-02T04:30:31Z")
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