# Tell us an interesting random fact you stumbled across (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 13, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674 "2020-04-13T03:19:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 298
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5950 "2023-01-24T11:47:39Z")
I wasn’t surprised to read that The Drifters had 42 different line ups between 1953 and 2004, but today I learned that in 1955 (just two years after the group formed) none of the original members were left and by 1958, none of the members of the 1955 version were left. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5951 "2023-01-24T11:49:45Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > The only ‘frown’ I knew was the one of the mouth. Yeah. A frown is a smile upside down. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5952 "2023-01-24T12:27:59Z")
Your language, not mine, but I find that dabatable. And the Brits may have a different opinion too and in this case I would tend to side with them. This does not count as a precedent! But relating to frowning I find that sneering and snarling are interesting too, and difficult to [translate](http://www.untrans.eu/english/words/sneer.html) as well. At least into German and Spanish. And they seem to have different meanings in US-English and UK-English too, if you look subtly enough anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5953 "2023-01-24T12:41:43Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Your language, not mine, but I find that dabatable. Take it up with Motown (1964) [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WVPcIz6Xg_k/hqdefault.jpg "Carolyn Crawford - My Smile Is Just A Frown Turned Upside Down") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVPcIz6Xg_k) ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5954 "2023-01-24T12:48:03Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Sea cucumbers’ poop is actually cleaner than their food intake. Sea beds and coral reefs are healthier when there are sea cucumbers around. Speaking of sea cucumbers: Sea cucumbers don’t have eyes, a heart, or even a brain. When they feel threatened, they turn inside out, regurgitating their intestines, respiratory organs and reproductive organs. But, don’t fret, they grow them all back within 6 weeks. Reminds me of my ex. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5955 "2023-01-24T12:49:42Z")
Is the idea that they provide the predator with viscera while the rest of the cucumber survives? ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5956 "2023-01-24T12:53:29Z")
Well, they expel them through their anus, so that would make sense. Leave the predator with food as they slink away. Pretty smart for a critter without a brain. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5957 "2023-01-24T12:54:35Z")
Growing up in a beach town, sea cucumbers were nature’s squirt guns. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5958 "2023-01-24T13:09:54Z")
OK, convinced. ---
**Author:** ![TRC4941](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trc4941/32/6792_2.png) [@TRC4941](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TRC4941)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5959 "2023-01-24T14:53:27Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > I’ve lived in the USA all my life and I know the second sense of it; and the first only if accompanying the second. I would never say that somebody’s “frowning” (well, except figuratively) unless they were furrowing their eyebrows. Me too. To me, frowning has nothing to do with the mouth. It’s all about the forehead and eyebrows. I’ve never known it any other way. I’ve lived in the US all of my life. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5960 "2023-01-24T15:30:47Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > I wasn’t surprised to read that The Drifters had 42 different line ups between 1953 and 2004, but today I learned that in 1955 (just two years after the group formed) none of the original members were left and by 1958, none of the members of the 1955 version were left. Are you saying it was an appropriate name? ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5961 "2023-01-24T17:05:41Z")
That’s also my experience, and my go-to dictionaries favor the “brow” definition: Cambridge: to bring your eyebrows together so that there are lines on your face above your eyes, often while turning the corners of your mouth downwards, showing that you are annoyed, worried, sad, or thinking hard. Merriam-Webster: to contract the brow in displeasure or concentration. Both are the first definitions of the intransitive verb, and the definitions for the noun more specifically refer to the brow. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5962 "2023-01-24T17:56:52Z")
I asked the OED which supports the brow definition, and my British (Welsh) husband, who had never heard of it and only knew the mouth definition. Datapoint of one, but I suspect the “smile is a frown turned upside-down” has wreaked some havoc on the traditional definition via pop culture. ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5963 "2023-01-24T18:05:43Z")
This is a Frowning Face Emoji which has no forehead expression at all: > **[Frowning Face Emoji (U+2639, U+FE0F)](http://www.iemoji.com/view/emoji/1769/smileys-people/frowning-face)** > > \- For those of you who don’t know the “mouth only” definition for ‘frown’, does that seem wrong? What would you call this face? So far as I can tell most (but not all) implementations of this emoji are mouth-only. ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5964 "2023-01-24T18:29:19Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > I suspect the “smile is a frown turned upside-down” has wreaked some havoc on the traditional definition via pop culture. Exactly what I was thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5965 "2023-01-24T22:24:06Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > This is a Frowning Face Emoji which has no forehead expression at all: > [Frowning Face Emoji (U+2639, U+FE0F)](http://www.iemoji.com/view/emoji/1769/smileys-people/frowning-face) > For those of you who don’t know the “mouth only” definition for ‘frown’, does that seem wrong? > What would you call this face? > > So far as I can tell most (but not all) implementations of this emoji are mouth-only. Without context I would have guessed it was a “Sulk” emoji. Seriously. j ETA: British ---
**Author:** ![Dahu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dahu/32/3416_2.png) [@Dahu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dahu)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5966 "2023-01-24T22:24:08Z")
Lived in England almost all my life. Never heard of this “mouth” version of frown before now. Always has been the forehead. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5967 "2023-01-24T23:44:59Z")
For me, it’s always been both. Imagine someone turning their mouth down without furrowing the brow. We’ve been trying that, and looking in the mirror, and it’s not natural. Everyone looks more creepy than sad. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5968 "2023-01-24T23:47:30Z")
My nephew plays international kayak polo. That’s a thing. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/5969 "2023-01-24T23:55:47Z")
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