# Tell us an interesting random fact you stumbled across (Part 1)

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 13, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674 "2020-04-13T03:19:22Z")\
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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> “Our ration”, “our issuance”, etc.

There may be unknown nuances in the original word but yeah, sounds like ‘daily bread’ is pretty close to whatever it means.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
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Are you saying that Pope Francis has specifically adjusted the _English_ translation? If he even speaks English, I know it’s at least his third language, so this would surprise me. What, exactly, did he do?

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**Author:** ![MajikMiker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/majikmiker/32/16789_2.png) [@MajikMiker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MajikMiker)\
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I read this decades ago,if my memory is correct it was in Readers Digest. While eating celery you burn more calories then you ingest. FACT 100% TRUE

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
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In Spanish it has always (that is: since I learned it, end '60s) been “y no nos dejes caer en la tentación”, where “caer” means literally “fall”. It is word-for-word literal translation. As a professional translator/interpreter I can only say that it is a bold move for a non-linguist to decide that, but I ignore how much reasoning by how wide a circle of experts went into that new official translation.

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Are you saying that Pope Francis has specifically adjusted the _English_ translation?

I assume it was all languages

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It was not all languages as the Spanish version was already like that (see post above).  
Is the difference so important in English?

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Welcome to the SDMB, @MajikMiker.

I, too, had heard that claim about celery, but it seems that the Readers Digest article you’re remembering, or perhaps your recollection, was mistaken.

> **[Negative-calorie food](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative-calorie_food)**
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> A negative-calorie food is food that supposedly requires more food energy to be digested than the food provides. Its thermic effect or specific dynamic action—the caloric "cost" of digesting the food—would be greater than its food energy content. Despite its recurring popularity in dieting guides, there is no evidence supporting the idea that any food is calorically negative. While some chilled beverages are calorically negative, the effect is minimal and requires drinking very large amounts Th...

> Despite its recurring popularity in dieting guides, there is no evidence supporting the idea that any food is calorically negative.

> There is no evidence to show that any of these foods have a negative calorific impact.[2][3] Foods claimed to be negative in calories are mostly low-calorie fruits and vegetables such as celery, grapefruit, orange, lemon, lime, apple, lettuce, broccoli, and cabbage.[4] However, celery has a thermic effect of around 8%, much less than the 100% or more required for a food to have “negative calories”.[5]

There are many other reliable medical sites that refute the notion of negative calorie foods.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
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The only way it could be “all languages” is if each language had the interpretation of the original wrong in the same way, which seems unlikely.

I found

[https://www.famigliacristiana.it/articolo/papa-francesco-corregge-il-padre-nostro-dio-non-induce-in-tentazione-.aspx](https://www.famigliacristiana.it/articolo/papa-francesco-corregge-il-padre-nostro-dio-non-induce-in-tentazione-.aspx), which says (I’ll give the Italian and then my translation, just in case a better translator can fix):

“Recitando il ‘Padre nostro’ gli italiani oggi dicono: «Non ci indurre in tentazione».\*\* Questa, però, osserva papa Francesco, «non è una buona traduzione. Anche i francesi hanno cambiato il testo con una traduzione che dice “non lasciarmi cadere nella tentazione”, sono io a cadere, non è lui che mi butta nella tentazione per poi vedere come sono caduto, un padre non fa questo, un padre aiuta ad alzarsi subito.”

“Reciting the ‘Our Father,’ Italians today say, “Don’t lead us into temptation.” This, however, observes Pope Francis, “isn’t a good translation. Even the French have changed the text with a translation that says, ‘do not let me fall into temptation’; It’s I who fall; it’s not he who throws me into temptation to then see how I’ve fallen; a father doesn’t do that; a father helps [you] to get up right away.”

That suggests we’re only talking about the Italian translation. But I don’t know; maybe it’s a general Catholic trend.

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Seriously, people make that claim about fruits? That’s the whole point of a fruit; a plant is offering a trade of Calories in exchange for an animal spreading its seeds.

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> a plant is offering a trade of Calories in exchange for an animal spreading its seeds.

If that sounds a little naughty, think about why eating a fruit was the first sinful act. 😃

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Today I learned about mountain chickens

That was a really interesting article; thank you so much for sharing it!

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In an interesting coincidence, after having just learned about catfish noodling in this thread, I came across this story about an Oklahoma man named Larry Sanders, who killed his friend during a noodling expedition for the entirely justifiable reason that Sanders thought that his friend had summoned Bigfoot to come and eat Sanders, by howling into a drainage pipe.

> **[Good Reason to Kill #77: Summoned Bigfoot to Kill You First](https://www.loweringthebar.net/2022/07/good-reason-to-kill-77-summoned-bigfoot.html)**
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> This is not a viable self-defense claim for any number of reasons.

This happened in 2022 but the trial has just concluded with a guilty verdict.

> **[Noodler Guilty of Murdering Alleged Bigfoot-Summoner](https://www.loweringthebar.net/2024/05/noodler-guilty-of-murdering-alleged-bigfoot-summoner.html)**
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> Did he take the stand in his own defense? That’s usually a terrible idea, so yes.

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Peacocks and chickens can interbreed and produce hybrid offspring.

Here’s one: “[Chickpea](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqZjPF4npYU)”

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I had heard of this person before but never realized who [the real hero of the first moon landing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton_%28software_engineer%29#Apollo_11_landing) was.

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Isn’t it amazing how rinky-dink the computer systems were way back then? It reminds me of building my own PC back in the 90’s compared to the slick shit you get now that I wouldn’t even begin to know how to upgrade. Back then it was just punch cards, dip switches and hoping for the best. And they made it to the moon. Wow.

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Back then it was just punch cards, dip switches and hoping for the best

Not exactly. The [Apollo Guidance Computer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer) stored its programming in [Core Rope Memory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory), which sounds far more nightmarish than good old hollerith punch cards. More compact, though.

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Also, there were no DIP switches. The first patent for a type of DIP switch was filed in 1970.

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Same dog.

[![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51rWiov7-YL.jpg) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51rWiov7-YL.jpg)

[![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTI2MDE2MDA0M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTM1MzU1MQ@@._V1_UY1200_CR285,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTI2MDE2MDA0M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTM1MzU1MQ@@._V1_UY1200_CR285,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg)

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> I had heard of this person before but never realized who [the real hero of the first moon landing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton_%28software_engineer%29#Apollo_11_landing) was.

And she played the Witch in _The Wizard of Oz_!

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Along with Jack Garmin

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