# Tell us an interesting random fact you stumbled across (Part 1)

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 13, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674 "2020-04-13T03:19:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Limmin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f04885/32.png) [@Limmin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Limmin)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/9933 "2024-07-17T22:44:49Z")

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This entire process is faithfully recreated in the Farming Simulator franchise of PC games. I’ve got about 4 of these (FS15 - FS21) myself. Yes, baling and storing hay and straw help a lot with feeding and bedding for animals. These are really educational games. Not just baling, but very many other aspects of modern day farming are simulated.

I’m living in a farming community IRL, and local kids _love_ this game. (It’s made in Germany, where simulator gaming seems a bigger deal than in the USA.)

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Apparently some of ze Germans [don’t like people named Kevin](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevinismus)?

Trust the Germans to systematise snobbery into an ism. But we have it in the UK (and I would guess Australia and NZ) - Wayne, Shane, Sharon, Tracey, anyone?

And I’ve seen US posters on another messageboard use “Cletus” as a signifier of a particular set of attitudes they obviously considered somewhat swamp-dwelling.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> And I’ve seen US posters on another messageboard use “Cletus” as a signifier of a particular set of attitudes they obviously considered somewhat swamp-dwelling.

Slack jawed hillbillies, not swamp rats.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
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“Some folks will never eat a skunk, but then again some folks’ll  
Like Cletus, the country yokel”

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> And I’ve seen US posters on another messageboard use “Cletus” as a signifier of a particular set of attitudes they obviously considered somewhat swamp-dwelling.

True but Cletus isn’t a name that’s used anymore nor was it ever common. A better example would be Bubba but that’s more of a nickname.

We of course famously have Karen and also Chad.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
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> [@hajario](#):
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> We of course famously have Karen and also Chad.

Karen I understand (I’m sure we have them too, but don’t have a generic name for them - perhaps we could call them Margo, for those with long memories).

But Chad? For those with really long memories, that was a WW2 craze for chalking on walls (think of it as a pre-internet analogue meme) a gormless face peering over a fence saying “Wot, no [_whatever_]?” But does the name have a different meaning in the US nowadays?

PS. Just thought - for some of us, Karen is a particularly and hilariously annoying child

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/7l5k8L5Maik/hqdefault.jpg "Outnumbered: He's On the Toilet") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l5k8L5Maik)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> But Chad? For those with really long memories, that was a WW2 craze for chalking on walls (think of it as a pre-internet analogue meme) a gormless face peering over a fence saying “Wot, no [_whatever_]?”

That sounds to me more like Kilroy. Which is (presumably) a last name, not first.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
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Chad is a term for the entitled trust-fund baby, or the wannabes thereof.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/9941 "2024-07-18T18:21:48Z")

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And [Kilroy](https://www.google.com/search?q=kilroy&newwindow=1&sca_esv=cd4f528d8c1c75a2&biw=1206&bih=1932&udm=2&sxsrf=ADLYWIJmvUioIBvl94UiTN7pWG1CJqYgog%3A1721326748434&ei=nFyZZpOQGsSo5NoPrqqI6Ak&ved=0ahUKEwiTzofrmbGHAxVEFFkFHS4VAp0Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=kilroy&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiBmtpbHJveTIIEAAYgAQYsQMyCBAAGIAEGLEDMgoQABiABBhDGIoFMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABEi0ElCTBliuD3ABeACQAQCYAYUBoAHCBaoBAzEuNbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCB6ACpgbCAgYQABgHGB7CAgQQABgewgIGEAAYCBgewgIEECMYJ8ICDhAAGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgINEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiKBZgDAIgGAZIHAzIuNaAHiiE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp) looks exactly like [Chad](https://www.google.com/search?q=chad+%22What+no%22&newwindow=1&sca_esv=cd4f528d8c1c75a2&sxsrf=ADLYWIJc_Dn9m4sNi4ao1nnMldmxwWATsA:1721326742205&source=hp&biw=1080&bih=1731&ei=llyZZsOjCvXcptQPwdKL4A0&iflsig=AL9hbdgAAAAAZplqppWJ_xe3_K6Go9FZjao1vOG0wXLj&ved=0ahUKEwjDxonombGHAxV1rokEHUHpAtwQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=chad+%22What+no%22&gs_lp=EgNpbWciDmNoYWQgIldoYXQgbm8iMgUQABiABDIEEAAYHjIGEAAYBRgeSM4iUABYwR9wAHgAkAEAmAGrAaABuAuqAQQxMC40uAEDyAEA-AEBigILZ3dzLXdpei1pbWeYAg6gAu0MwgIEECMYJ8ICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgIOEAAYgAQYsQMYgwEYigXCAgQQABgDwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAgYQABgIGB7CAgcQABiABBgYmAMAkgcGMy4xMC4xoAfhQQ&sclient=img&udm=2).

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Chad is a term for the entitled trust-fund baby, or the wannabes thereof.

I think one possibility (though not that common) over here for that sort is “Rupert”.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
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I thought Chad was lynched in Florida back in late 2000. Seemed to be all over the news.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/9944 "2024-07-18T20:14:17Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> I think one possibility (though not that common) over here for that sort is “Rupert”.

[![](https://thecommemorativecoincompany.com/cdn/shop/products/200410_Rupert_1_530x@2x.jpg?v=1613526398) ](https://thecommemorativecoincompany.com/cdn/shop/products/200410_Rupert_1_530x@2x.jpg?v=1613526398)

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-1/851674/9945 "2024-07-19T02:01:32Z")

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Yesterday, in my effort to avoid watching a certain national convention, I stumbled onto a documentary about famed nfl football coach Vince Lombardi (who is most remembered as the leader of the 1960s Green Bay Packers).

And I learned that he had an older brother, Harold, who was gay.

In 1969, Lombardi’s last year in coaching, he coached the Washington Redskins.

On that team were several gay players. Although none were out at the time, there was unspoken knowledge in the locker room (and apparently two of the players - Jerry Smith and David Kopay - were in a relationship!)

Vince Lombardi, the quintessential alpha male, a leader among men, treated gay men with respect and dignity.

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> In 1969, Lombardi’s Redskins included a running back named Ray McDonald, who in 1968 had been arrested for having sex with another man in public. In the Lombardi biography When Pride Still Mattered, author David Maraniss writes that Lombardi told his assistants he wanted them to work with McDonald to help him make the team, “And if I hear one of you people make reference to his manhood, you’ll be out of here before your ass hits the ground.”

> **[Vince Lombardi accepted gay players on his team](https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/vince-lombardi-accepted-gay-players-on-his-team)**
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> The ongoing debate about how a gay NFL player would be treated in the locker room has largely focused on the idea that times are changing, and that acceptance of a gay player would be a modern development.

I dig it.

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Chad is a term for the entitled trust-fund baby, or the wannabes thereof.

Really? The only use of Chad that I know of is the running character on _Saturday Night Live_ that Pete Davidson did. You can find them all on YouTube.

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Vince Lombardi, the quintessential alpha male, a leader among men, treated gay men with respect and dignity.

I can truly say I learned something today. Nice post!

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Chad is a term for the entitled trust-fund baby, or the wannabes thereof.

The use of Chad I know of is in the incel community - a Chad is the guy all the women go for when they are supposed to be falling for the incel

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Specifically, Chads are the small minority of Alphas that womens’ mercenary instincts latch onto for their looks, wealth and status, whom the incels both resent and envy.

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Owsley Stanley, was the great acid chemist of the psychedelic era. Around 1965 he acquired a new nickname: White Rabbit. Also around 1965 Grace Slick wrote the acid anthem White Rabbit. So was Stanley named after the song? Or was the song a homage to Stanley? Or was it just a coincidence?

This, sadly, I have been unable to establish.

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I wonder if the term Chad is known by more people for the men who get the women that incels want or for the character Pete Davidson played on _SNL_. I don’t know any way to measure that. Can someone suggest a way to measure it? It would be useful to have something other than “Well, the way that I’ve heard it used is this.”

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Since I was a child the name Chad was associated with WASPy old money types.

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