# Tell us an interesting random fact you stumbled across (Part 2)

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**Created:** [July 25, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785 "2024-07-25T15:06:02Z")\
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Speaking of going fast, a [driver was](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-06/driver-gets-fined-195-796-after-latest-speeding-in-finland/102444074) fined €121,000 for speediing. He was doing approximately the equivalent of 50mph in a 30mph zone, which is pretty impolite, but most American police would not lay so heavy a fine, and might even just let him go with a warning. Because, you see, the driver has a rather high income: in Finland, traffic fines are meant to be actually punitive and so are scaled to fit the offender’s wealth, as compared to the US, where a well-to-do miscreant might well be able to talk their way out of a ticket.

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I recently discovered that the Welsh word for “carrot” is.. “moron”.  
(There’s a Trump joke in there somewhere.)

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Technically, “moron” is “carrots.” A single carrot is “moronen.”

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There’s a city near my home that’s called “Morón” (etymology unknown), with its corresponding university, the (for Anglo speakers) hilariously named “University of Morón”.

[![](https://auditoriagroup.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/cuanto-es-la-cuota-de-la-universidad-de-moron-3-1536x863.webp) ](https://auditoriagroup.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/cuanto-es-la-cuota-de-la-universidad-de-moron-3-1536x863.webp)

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The flying car was invented in 1903.

I’m really going to need a cite on that.

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It was in all the papers.

> **[Wright Flyer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_Flyer)**
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> The Wright Flyer (also known as the Kitty Hawk, Flyer I or the 1903 Flyer) made the first sustained flight by a manned heavier-than-air powered and controlled aircraft on December 17, 1903. Invented and flown by brothers Orville and Wilbur Wright, it marked the beginning of the pioneer era of aviation.
> The aircraft is a single-place biplane design with anhedral (drooping) wings, front double elevator (a canard) and rear double rudder. It used a 12 horsepower (9 kilowatts) gasoline engine pow...

To be fair, it wasn’t a very good car, nor very good at flying.

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> To be fair, it wasn’t a very good car, nor very good at flying.

Hardly a car at all. The landing gear was a pair of skids and it was launched from a dolly rolling on a short temporary track initially, then later with a catapult. At the time it was the best airplane available though.

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They were limited in the number of flights they could make per day, because every time they wanted to fly it, they had to arrive two hours before takeoff.

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> It was in all the papers.

Oh, them. I was taking a dip in the ocean when these idiots came along and disturbed all the seabirds. Made a huge mess of the beach. The plane did too. Natives still call them the Wrong Brothers.

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I doubt this will be news to anyone here but I just found out octopus’ don’t have tentacles.

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Eight arms to hold you.

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> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#):
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> I doubt this will be news to anyone here

News to me, for one. And I have made pickled octopus ~~tentacles~~ … uh, arms before.

What does our lord Cthulhu wear around His face? Surely not arms.

(Also this news has ruined, RUINED the genre of “tentacle porn” for me, forever)

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Technically, “moron” is “carrots.” A single carrot is “moronen.”

Wait, really? Because in older English (closely related to Dutch), the ending -en makes something plural (nowadays mostly only seen in “oxen”, “brethren”, and “children”).

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Because in older English (closely related to Dutch), the ending -en makes something plural (nowadays mostly only seen in “oxen”, “brethren”, and “children”).

It’s the same in modern High German.

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I don’t know much about Welsh, but some quick googling tells me that the -en suffix does a few things. Irritatingly, two of those things is singularizing plural nouns and pluralizing singular nouns.

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Yes. In Celtic languages, some nouns are plural by default, and take a singulative ending when you want to talk about just one. You can also pluralize that, so:

sêr = stars  
seren = star  
serennau = discrete individual stars, like film stars (though you also hear sêr for this)

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Reminds me of another case, in modern English: Usually, when you take a verb, and add -er to the end of it, you get a noun meaning a person or thing who does that. But there’s one case where you take a verb, and remove -er from the end, to mean someone or something who does that.

“Pester” and “pest”

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In English there are some singular nouns ending with “s” which become plural when you remove the “s”.

(I’m cheating a bit because they become completely different words when the “s” is removed.)

princess → princes  
caress → cares

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Just now: I found out there’s a Colorado River in Texas.

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Trivia question: What state capital is on the Colorado River?  
Answer: Austin, TX.

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