# Tell us an interesting random fact you stumbled across (Part 2)

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> Alois was a common German name in my grandfather’s generation

Before I forget: **[Dr. Alzheimer](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Alzheimer)**, the one of the eponimous illness, was an Alois. And he was born in **[Marktbreit am Main](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marktbreit)** which is indeed in Bavaria.

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Before I forget: **[Dr. Alzheimer](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Alzheimer)**

ISWYDT…

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I tried looking up if “Zheimer” was a known surname so that someone could be named Al Zheimer, but apparently not. The etymology was originally Alzheim-er, someone from the Bavarian village of Alzheim.

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From the Census files (I forget if it is 2010 or 2020 census):

OPPENHEIMER  
HEIMER  
MISENHEIMER  
BERKHEIMER  
WEINHEIMER  
GUMMERSHEIMER  
WERTHEIMER  
DEXHEIMER  
MEISENHEIMER  
KELSHEIMER  
GEGENHEIMER  
THEIMER  
DAHLHEIMER  
SEILHEIMER  
HEIMERDINGER  
HERBOLSHEIMER  
HOLZHEIMER  
HOFHEIMER  
BILLHEIMER  
ALSHEIMER  
SWICKHEIMER  
SONTHEIMER  
OSTHEIMER  
LOVENSHEIMER  
HERPOLSHEIMER  
WINDSHEIMER  
THALHEIMER  
REINHEIMER  
LEIPHEIMER  
ELSHEIMER  
BODENHEIMER  
ALTHEIMER  
WEIDENHEIMER  
VEITENHEIMER  
SONDHEIMER  
ODENHEIMER  
MELSHEIMER  
MANNHEIMER  
LAUBERSHEIMER  
KOTHEIMER  
HEIMERL  
EPPERHEIMER  
BECKELHEIMER

There is only one IE instead of EI:  
HIEMER

Three of those caught my eyes immediately: Alsheimer, Altheimer, and Holzheimer

Is that close enough?

Personally, I like the Misenheimer. It sounds a lot like Wizenheimer.

As for male names starting with Al that are not last names:  
ALBERT  
ALAN  
ALLEN  
ALFRED  
ALEXANDER  
ALEX  
ALVIN  
ALLAN  
ALFREDO  
ALBERTO  
ALEJANDRO  
ALFONSO  
ALTON  
AL  
ALONZO  
ALI  
ALVARO  
ALEXIS  
ALPHONSO  
ALVA  
ALPHONSE  
ALDO  
ALDEN  
ALFONZO  
ALEC  
ALONSO

For what it’s worth, “Al” is the 435th most common male name in that census.

To make the lists above, the name had to appear at least 100 times in that census. Four local families in my community of about 35 people have last names that don’t appear on the census. In one of the families, I think that I have probably met everyone in the US with that last name. Searching on the Internet finds only one person with that last name who is not in the US.

At least three of the early settlers who didn’t remain had names not on the list.

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Heim is cognate with the English Ham or Hamlet: a small village. So of course it appears frequently as part of a place name.

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> [@hajario](#):
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> The Greek letter XI is used similarly.

Um, if XI is legal, is Mu legal too?

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Mu is a legal Scrabble word.

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Honestly, who controls this? Is there an official Scrabble dictionary? It must be more voluminous and kept updated faster than any other dictionary. And this for every language in which the game is distributed.

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Of course:

> **[Scrabble Dictionary - Check the Official Scrabble Dictionary | Play Scrabble](https://playscrabble.com/dictionary)**
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> Check your word in the Official Scrabble Dictionary and determine if your letters make an accepted Scrabble Dictionary word!

For every language you can play. Check the flag for German.

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Without having clicked the link: Mind blown! My question was rather hypothetical, I’d never thought there were such dictionaries.

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If I understand that right, there are professional Scrabble tournaments and players. Where there is money & egos involved there must be a referee and an undisputed autority to refer to. This seems to be it.

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Ah, this is the level when a game stops being fun. I’d rather have a familial discussion about “Schwanzhund” 😉

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**[Schwanzhund](https://playscrabble.com/dictionary/schwanzhund)**?  
Wort nicht gefunden.  
Official answer with a sad emoji.  
I also stopped playing decades ago. But I would have loved to debate Schwanzhund with your family.

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Yeah, the official rules for Scrabble just say that the players have to all agree on a dictionary. And for kitchen-table play, that works fine. But for a tournament, there has to be some dictionary that’s the one everyone agrees to by entering.

The game company doesn’t actually decide what makes it into the official Scrabble dictionary. Rather, they have a list of about eight standard dictionaries that they draw from, and it’s based on what those dictionaries accept (IIRC, it has to be in at least two of them, but it might just be one).

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> But I would have loved to debate Schwanzhund with your family.

No it wasn’t my family 😄, but Paul Winkelmann’s (Loriot) aunt Mechthild in “Ödipussi”.

> **[Ödipussi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96dipussi)**
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> Ödipussi is a 1988 West German comedy film, written and directed by and also starring Loriot. It was the first of two feature films he directed, the other one being Pappa Ante Portas. The title is a pun on the Oedipus complex described by Sigmund Freud and the nickname "Pussi", the way the main protagonist is called by his mother throughout the film. Rumors that the title might also be a reference to the James Bond film Octopussy have been denied by Loriot.
> Paul Winkelmann runs the family's fu...

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-7pFDPMs4EU/maxresdefault.jpg "Schwanzhund") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7pFDPMs4EU)

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Oh mein Gott! I am getting the impression that now, as I am getting old myself, I might finally find that film funny after all.  
ETA to nitpick: That sketch is cheating, BTW. You only have seven letters to play with, so you can either play “NASE” or “SCHWANZ” on “HUND”, but not both. That is one letter too much.

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My Scrabble dictionary is old, now. Is _ **qat** _ still legal?

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> [@Melbourne](#):
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> Um, if XI is legal, is Mu legal too?

And Nu and Pi

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Heim is cognate with the English Ham or Hamlet: a small village. So of course it appears frequently as part of a place name.

And also cognate to English _home_. The “Alz” is cognate to English _all_. So, _Alzheim_ is equivalent to “all’s home”.

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> My Scrabble dictionary is old, now. Is _ **qat** _ still legal?

Sure nuff

> **[QAT Scrabble® Word Finder](https://scrabble.merriam.com/finder/qat)**
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> 3 Playable Words can be made from Qat: at, ta, qat

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