# Tell us an interesting random fact you stumbled across (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 25, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785 "2024-07-25T15:06:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/641 "2024-10-13T20:10:20Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > It was a first down and a penalty for intentional grounding wouldn’t have been that bad Wrong. The penalty for intentional grounding is a spot foul. A penalty for intentional grounding in the end zone is a safety. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/642 "2024-10-13T20:19:07Z")
All this talk of safeties reminded me that there is a fella on YouTube who goes by the name of One Point Safety Nation, whose self-appointed mission is to log every one point safety ever committed to video. Here is his admirable magnum opus: > **[Every Recorded One Point Safety compilation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weqGb1_bTWo%2F1)** > > After hours of searching, the One Point Safety Movement has complied every recorded instance of a one point safety they could find. Credit to @UnusualSports... Now, I’ve known about this for a while, but as I was digging this out for your edification, I came across a further work by One Point Safety Nation, in which he hypothesises that a game of college football could be won by a score of 1 - 0. And, by crikey, I believe he is correct. > **[How a College Football game could end 1-0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFImsX9rqb4%2F1)** > > The One Point Safety Movement theorizes the most cursed score in the history of football and sports. Credit to @co.agmusic for the music! They are awesome.#o... j ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/643 "2024-10-13T20:20:41Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > But the one play where this happened was first down. And a swing pass to a running back which is caught behind the line of scrimmage is not an unusual play. Except Waddle isn’t a running back. He’s a wide receiver. It helps to know that Miami throws a lot of quick passes to very fast wide receivers who they hope will run for 10 or more yards. Just not normally in their own end zone. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/WshNh8A9afI/hqdefault.jpg "Jaylen Waddle gets Leveled for Safety! | Raiders vs Dolphins") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WshNh8A9afI) ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/644 "2024-10-13T20:23:41Z")
BTW, I don’t know if this is necessary, but: > **[Safety (gridiron football score)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_(gridiron_football_score)#Conversion_safeties_(one-point_safeties))** > > In gridiron football, the safety (American football) or safety touch (Canadian football) is a scoring play that results in two points being awarded to the scoring team. Safeties can be scored in a number of ways, such as when a ball carrier is tackled in his own end zone or when a foul is committed by the offense in its own end zone. After a safety is scored in American football, the ball is kicked off to the team that scored the safety from the 20-yard line; in Canadian football, the scoring t... (See section on conversion safeties) j ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/645 "2024-10-13T20:26:54Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Except Waddle isn’t a running back. I was responding to this: > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > so you dump it to a running back and pray he can get out of the endzone. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/646 "2024-10-13T20:35:54Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Except Waddle isn’t a running back. Of course not; it’s right there in his name. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/647 "2024-10-13T20:37:01Z")
Did not know that. So maybe the pass was his last option left. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/648 "2024-10-13T20:40:28Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > So maybe the pass was his last option left. Look at the clip shared by @Moriarty a few posts up. It shows the play in question. The pass completion in the end zone was the play that was called. It did not work as planned. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/649 "2024-10-13T20:49:16Z")
So just dumb decision. So many ways to go wrong. I think I did know the grounding call would result in a safety, just forgot, don’t recall it coming up often, but I think I did see that happen before. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/650 "2024-10-13T20:57:29Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > > [@Moriarty](#): > > > > Except Waddle isn’t a running back. > > Of course not; it’s right there in his name. Have you ever seen his touchdown celebration? He, uh, _teeters_ back and forth like a penguin. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/651 "2024-10-13T21:42:51Z")
Not many, but more than one. Oftentimes, the reason why an offense is backed up that far is due to a penalty of some kind, or after a fumble. So they may have a long distance to get a 1st down, so a defense can play “soft”. This would be an opportunity for a swing pass to get a big chunk of yards. Chances are low that the pass catcher would then be tackled in the end zone, but could happen, especially if the defense collapses or there is a bobble by the receiver before he catches it. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/652 "2024-10-13T22:28:42Z")
I’m not saying it would never happen because obviously it did. I was just saying one would expect it to be very rare because it involves a pass behind your own line in the endzone which wouldn’t even get it to the line of scrimmage. Sure someone could design a play like that like a screen pass. Or it could be a dump off to avoid the sack and not ground the ball. So the question is if it happened more often it would be what? 3 or 4 times max? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/653 "2024-10-13T22:48:59Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > So the question is if it happened more often it would be what? 3 or 4 times max? Um, what? Not sure what you’re asking here. If it happened twice as often as it has, it would have happened two times. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/654 "2024-10-13T23:19:23Z")
Yes, I would expected at least another one in the 50+ years of NFL history. Yes, I know it predates the Super Bowl era, but not sure if the stat includes all that. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/655 "2024-10-14T03:24:10Z")
Speaking of safeties, here’s a question: Why should this play have been a safety? You can see the play at 1:52:30 [1980 Divisional Round Eagles vs Vikings](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjKn0KbaElI) The announcers thought it was because of Jaworski’s grounding in the end zone, but all the official history says it was because he was sacked in the end zone, which he was, but he was in the process of throwing a pass to nobody, so grounding also might have been a good call. However, we also don’t see a referee throwing a flag or making a grounding motion, and they don’t come over the PA system explaining it, so I’m guessing they thought it was a sack as opposed to grounding. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/656 "2024-10-14T03:36:07Z")
That was enforcement of the in-the-grasp rule. As soon as #79 of the Vikings had grabbed Jaworski and had control, the play ends and it is treated as a tackle then and there. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/657 "2024-10-14T03:42:02Z")
Cool, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/658 "2024-10-15T19:37:08Z")
A post lead me to the Wikipedia article on [chlorine-triflouride](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_trifluoride) which quotes an expert on the material: "… It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers, … [Re: metal-flouride fire.] For dealing with this situation, I have always recommended a good pair of running shoes." ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/659 "2024-10-15T23:45:32Z")
Sounds reminiscent of [Ira Remsen’s investigation of nitric acid](https://chem.rutgers.edu/cldf-demos/1068-cldf-demo-ira-remsen-investigation-nitric-acid). ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/660 "2024-10-16T14:45:29Z")
I recently learned about this: > **[Cross-polarization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-polarization)** > > Cross-polarization (CP), originally published as proton-enhanced nuclear induction spectroscopy is a solid-state nuclear magnetic resonance (ssNMR) technique to transfer nuclear magnetization from different types of nuclei via heteronuclear dipolar interactions. The 1H-X cross-polarization dramatically improves the sensitivity of ssNMR experiments of most experiments involving spin-1/2 nuclei, capitalizing on the higher 1H polarisation, and shorter T1(1H) relaxation times. It was developed In th... I learned about it entirely because of the name it was originally published under: > **[Proton‐Enhanced Nuclear Induction Spectroscopy. A Method for High Resolution...](https://pubs.aip.org/aip/jcp/article-abstract/56/4/1776/213971/Proton-Enhanced-Nuclear-Induction-Spectroscopy-A?redirectedFrom=fulltext)** > > A. Pines, M. G. Gibby, J. S. Waugh; Proton‐Enhanced Nuclear Induction Spectroscopy. A Method for High Resolution NMR of Dilute Spins in Solids, The Journal of C which abbreviates as PENIS. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785.md?page=34)