# Tell us an interesting random fact you stumbled across (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 25, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785 "2024-07-25T15:06:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 83
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1641 "2025-02-20T16:38:19Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > From Strindberg’s _Miss Julie_, we’d learned that “Turkish pavilion” was a euphemism for outhouse. Tangentially related: the hole-in-the-ground type toilet, which I grew up (a long time ago) thinking of as quintessentially French, is these days referred to by the French as _une toillette a la Turque_ (a Turkish toilet). Which the wife discovered in a queue for the toilets, where everyone (all French) was avoiding that particular cubicle. How times change. It’s a rare thing to find one these days - I _almost_ miss them. j ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1642 "2025-02-20T16:42:55Z")
> [@Treppenwitz](#): > > It’s a rare thing to find one these days - I _almost_ miss them. We saw a number of them in Turkey (obviously), but then I was surprised to encounter one in a restaurant on the shore of Lake Maggiore in Italy. Took a picture and everything. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1643 "2025-02-20T16:43:05Z")
Thus my jokingly referring to the Pope as “The Papancho”. An almost surely false but popular and funny explanation for calling Josés, “Pepe” is that Joseph, husband of Mary, mother of Jesus, name was followed in religious manuscripts and statues by the initials “p.p.” for _Pater Putativus_ because he was the putative father of Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1644 "2025-02-20T16:47:58Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Jose-Pepe Similar in German: Josef often becomes Sepp (in the South, especially Bavaria) or Jupp (especially in the Rhineland and Westphalia). ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1645 "2025-02-20T16:55:22Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > Interesting. Among his outrages listed in the link was urinating on the Turkish pavilion at Expo 2000. Yeah, I remember that incident/scandal well, it caused a minor diplomatic crisis between Germany and Turkey because the Turks felt insulted. And of course the yellow press had a field day. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1646 "2025-02-20T16:57:58Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > And of course the yellow press had a field day. ?? - got me there. Is it a joke or does my ignorance need to be fixed? j ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1647 "2025-02-20T16:59:21Z")
> **[Yellow journalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)** > > In journalism, yellow journalism and the yellow press are American newspapers that use eye-catching headlines and sensationalized exaggerations for increased sales. This term is chiefly used in American English, whereas in the United Kingdom, the similar term tabloid journalism is more common. Other languages, e.g. Russian (жёлтая пресса zhyoltaya pressa), sometimes have terms derived from the American term. Yellow journalism emerged in the intense battle for readers by two newspapers in Ne... ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1648 "2025-02-20T16:59:58Z")
> [@Treppenwitz](#): > > ?? - got me there. Is it a joke or does my ignorance need to be fixed? I think this was just another one of my totally unintended puns… 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1649 "2025-02-20T17:03:09Z")
Huh - never heard the term. Another British English term which I guess is broadly euivalent might be “The Red Tops” - from the vulgar coloring of the front page. > [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I think this was just another one of my totally unintended puns… 😂 Shush - just claim it was deliberate and smart. 😉 j ETA and thanks to @Frodo for fixing my ignorance ---
**Author:** ![APB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@APB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/APB)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1650 "2025-02-20T17:18:51Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > (Not that distant, btw, since his mother was Philip’s sister) Not that close. It was his father’s brother who was married to one of Philip’s sisters. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1651 "2025-02-20T17:21:08Z")
Never eat yellow snow, never read yellow press. > [@Treppenwitz](#): > > Another British English term which I guess is broadly euivalent might be “The Red Tops” - from the vulgar coloring of the front page. I thought you called them tabloids. And they only print lies and factoids. It’s what Mr. Murdock did before going on air. I sometimes wonder what could have become of **[Robert Maxwell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell)** if he had not drowned himself. Those two were birds of a feather and loathed each other. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1652 "2025-02-20T17:28:26Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > I thought you called them tabloids. That too, but I was thinking of the color reference. j ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1653 "2025-02-20T18:34:36Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Jesus-Chuy (two syllables sounds like chewy) So that Wookie’s real name was Jesus?? ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1654 "2025-02-20T19:23:46Z")
Obligatory: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/kgBsiVNmS9I/maxresdefault.jpg "Fools Rush In: Meeting her entire family for the first time") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgBsiVNmS9I&t=34) ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1655 "2025-02-20T22:48:47Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Similar in German: Josef often becomes Sepp (in the South, especially Bavaria) or Jupp (especially in the Rhineland and Westphalia). In Austria, Josef is either Sepp or Pepi (There might be geographic fault-lines, but my gutfeeling is Pepi is more eastern while Sepp more alpine). Georg in the lower parts of AUT is Schurl - of course Jorge in Spanish. It does not make me proud that it took me a few years to link Guillermo (“Guille”) to William … príncipe guillermo oh… and Isabel … which is Elizabeth - didn’t know that either for an embarrasing long time 😉 ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1656 "2025-02-20T23:04:49Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > Georg in the lower parts of AUT is Schurl - of course Jorge in Spanish. In parts of Germany (including my home region of Westphalia), Georg becomes Schorsch, which sounds surprisingly close to the English pronunciation of “Georg”. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1657 "2025-02-20T23:18:05Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Georg becomes Schorsch, which sounds surprisingly close to the English pronunciation of “Georg”. You mean “George”. Without the final “e”, it’s pronounced similar to the German. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1658 "2025-02-20T23:20:57Z")
Yep, you’re right. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1659 "2025-02-20T23:28:04Z")
And all those Georg(e)s, Schorschs, Schurls, Jorges, Giorgios, Giorgiis, Yorgosses and so on are called Jordi in Catalonia and Gorka in the Basque Countries. I find Gorka interestingly different, very Basque, but at the same time recognizably related. I wonder now how it is said in Welsch or Scots. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1660 "2025-02-20T23:31:23Z")
Siôr (as English “shore”) in Welsh. Wiki article on George VI in Welsh: [Siôr VI, brenin y Deyrnas Unedig - Wicipedia](https://cy.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si%C3%B4r_VI,_brenin_y_Deyrnas_Unedig) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785.md?page=82) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785.md?page=84)