Tell us an interesting random fact you stumbled across (Part 2)

Glickman later became a sports announcer in NYC, and the voice of the NY Knicks, Giants, Jets, Nets, Brooklyn Dodgers, among other teams.

Not sure I follow. Were Glickman and Stoller faster than Robinson to warrant starting ahead of him? Or was there no trials system, as we have today? And what was Owens protesting? Was he afraid Robinson was going to beat him?

You misunderstood the point of @RealityChuck. Glickman and Stoller were part of the relay team, but because they were Jewish, they were replaced by Owens and another runner, Ralph Metcalfe. Owens protested this last-minute change of personnel, to no avail.

Robinson played no part in this episode.

From Glickman’s Wiki page:

Glickman was a noted track and field athlete and football star at Syracuse University. He was a member of the U.S. team at the 1936 Summer Olympic Games held in Berlin, Germany. The unexplained, last-minute decision to remove Glickman and Sam Stoller—a fellow Jewish American athlete—from the 100-meter relay at the 1936 Olympics, where they were replaced by Jesse Owens and Ralph Metcalfe, who easily won the gold medal, has been widely viewed as an American effort to avoid embarrassing or offending Adolf Hitler, then the Chancellor of Germany, who had been directing anti-Jewish discriminatory policies since 1933.

Was reading Jesse Owens’ Wiki page, and came across an interesting fact: he starting smoking cigarettes at the age of 32, nine years after winning four gold medals at the Berlin Summer Olympics. And died of lung cancer. :slightly_frowning_face:

Can we consider church bells (or any bells in a structure) to be a “musical instrument”? You would have Big Ben (and its associated bells) in the Elizabeth Tower heard every 15 minutes by thousands of people. And at what point does “in person” mean physically in sight of the bells, or only within hearing distance?

Remember - I’m the OP, and my original post said “allegedly”, so it’s open for debate.

Apparently, everyone agrees on the answer to that question, so no point asking.

No, we just all agree that

isn’t in person.

In person is a somewhat fuzzy concept, as are many phrases and ideas.

Is an alarm clock a musical instrument that puts on a performance every morning at 6:45? Mine plays the BEEP!! BEEP!! BEEP!! song.

You are confusing two different events. Railer13’s post was about the individual 200 m race, which was won by Owens, with Robinson taking silver. You are referring to the 4 x 100 m relay, where Glickman and Stoller, who were both Jewish, were replaced by Owens and Metcalfe, who were both African American. There has been speculation that Glickman and Stoller were replaced to appease the Nazis, but replacing them with two Black men doesn’t seem like it would really have made Hitler happy.

I wasn’t confusing anything. I added the relay race information as an additional event. The Jewish runners were 100% objectively removed because they were Jewish. It’s beyond dispute. The head coach who made the decision was literally a member of America First. As to why he was ok with Black men instead of Jews, he thought that they had an advantage because they were “from the jungle”.

Dean Cromwell was a fucking pig who never regretted his actions.

Correct. @hajario wasn’t confusing anything.

This was the confusion, which I already attempted to clear up:

This leads me to ponder a literary question. Does Hotblack Desiato’s band, Disaster Area, ever have a live audience?

Not for long.

Cromwell might be the lightning rod, but I’d have to believe he had the blessing of Avery Brundage, who has his own complicated legacy.

Without a doubt. They were in cahoots.

I had never heard of that guy before, but now I ask myself: why were all prominent men in history named Cromwell such colossal assholes?

I only know of one other Cromwell (who, yes, was also an asshole). But two seems too small a sample for the word “all”. Any others you’re thinking of?

A third one, if you meant Oliver Cromwell:

This guy isn’t so bad

“That’ll do, pig.” - James Cromwell

“That’ll do, pig.”