# Telling someone in The Pit to fuck off.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [November 3, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517 "2015-11-03T14:11:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/41 "2015-11-04T03:20:17Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> Indeed.

Qapla’!

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/42 "2015-11-04T03:38:14Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Qapla’!

gesundheit

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/43 "2015-11-04T04:30:19Z")

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Baiches!!

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/44 "2015-11-04T04:37:55Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> One hardly needs to report a missive to the mod named as the target of one of the three verboten phrases, does one?

What makes you think that guarantees the mod would see it? Maybe he forgot about the thread and didn’t go back. Maybe he got busy at work. Maybe that one mod sees it different than you. In any case it’s better to report if you feel there is a violation.

> [@Colibri](#):
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> We asked him if he liked barbecue.

Hey, I like barbecue!

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/45 "2015-11-04T04:43:57Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> …
> 
> Hey, I like barbecue!

BBQ’ed donuts?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/46 "2015-11-04T10:20:19Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> I support this as a manifestation of this board’s longstanding affirmative action plan for conservatives. The poster dances on the line 3 times: twice with moderators. I think if a board liberal does this he or she should be warned. But I think the poster in question should be given a pass for the posts discussed in the OP.
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> This is MHO of course.

If nothing else, someone needs to post this out to **Bricker**. Bang goes his theory.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/47 "2015-11-04T12:50:02Z")

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People. Do you not remember the chaos of the pit cleansing? It almost ripped the board apart. Miller basically saved the SDMB single-handed by finding the tiny sliver of the Venn Diagram that was moderation that would keep Ed happy and allow the Pit to function. It’s the single greatest feat of moderation of all time. And y’all want to fuck it up? Seriously?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/48 "2015-11-04T14:53:14Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Hey, I like barbecue!

You’ll be sorr-eeee!

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**Author:** ![JimNightshade](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jimnightshade/32/3354_2.png) [@JimNightshade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JimNightshade)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/49 "2015-11-04T20:58:29Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I won’t speak for Miller but reporting questionable posts is always a good idea.

LOL

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/50 "2015-11-04T22:11:12Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> The Master’s decree stickied to The Pit:  
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10894824&postcount=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10894824&postcount=1)
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> Repeated deliberate use of the proscribed by the same person toward several others, including two mods:  
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18818672&postcount=6824](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18818672&postcount=6824)  
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18823324&postcount=6875](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18823324&postcount=6875)  
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18823327&postcount=6876](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18823327&postcount=6876)
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> Censure:  
> [crickets]
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> Has the prohibition against telling people to fuck off (or variants) in The Pit been rescinded?
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> If not, why has that particular poster been given a pass?

Since you’re complaining about me, let me educate you.

The term “fuck off” as I used it means “go away”, or “get lost”. If you want a secondary context, you can add “…and stop being an annoying little twit” to the end of it.

I said that to three people who acted like asshats and posted personal bullshit against me, rather than debating the issue in the thread. The fact that two of them are mods is meaningless - they were speaking as themselves, and not wearing their mod beanies at the time.

Any other questions? Please feel free to ask. And if you really want to unload, feel free to PM me if you so desire.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/51 "2015-11-04T22:13:45Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> The term “fuck off” as I used it means “go away”, or “get lost”. If you want a secondary context, you can add “…and stop being an annoying little twit” to the end of it.

Nobody here is confused about what the phrase “fuck off” means.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/52 "2015-11-04T22:31:27Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> If you want a secondary context, you can add “…and stop being an annoying little twit” to the end of it.
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> I said that to three people who acted like asshats

**Moderating**

**Clothahump** , you’re not in the Pit any more, but in ATMB. Keep your references to other posters civil.

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**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/53 "2015-11-04T23:44:43Z")

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May I just say, for the record, that the Pit rules regarding swearing are completely fucking ridiculous. I thought the whole damn point of the Pit was to tell people who needed to fuck off to fuck the fuck off. The rules are ridiculous, and, as several other posters have noted, _completely_ inconsistent.

I can tell a poster that he’s a suppurating buboe on the anus of humanity, but I can’t tell the same poster to fuck off.

I can call a poster a deadbrained chromosomal catastrophe who’s about half as much use as Anne Frank’s drum kit, but I can’t call him a cunt.

I can say that a poster’s opinion is about as welcome as a thalidomide baby at a circle-jerk, or that he’s so desperately stupid he has to whistle when he goes to the toilet to remind himself which end to shit through, but I can’t call him a dumb motherfucker.

Where’s the logic? If someone wants to call someone a cunt, why not just let them call them a cunt? Why make them jump through hoops to come up with convoluted insults when the subtext (ie. “I think you’re a cunt”) is still perfectly obvious? It’s stupid.

Also, this idea that “creative” (read: pretentious) insults are somehow “better” than old standards like cunt or fuck is a load of old tosh. There are _loads_ of ways to be creative with those words. Just ask [Malcolm Tucker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe3Ou9xBAlI) **(VERY NSFW!)**

_“But…but…cunt and motherfucker are offensiiiiive!!!”_ So what? Your face is offensive. It looks like someone tried to put out a forest fire with a dented spoon. If you’re such a shrinking violet then don’t go in the Pit. The idea of having a flame forum where you can’t use regular flames is retarded. It doesn’t solve a damn thing. All it does is create busy-work for the mods, and I’m sure they’d rather use the time they spend chiding people for bad language doing…well, pretty much anything else.

It’s all a big load of old balls :mad:

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/54 "2015-11-04T23:54:53Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Any other questions? Please feel free to ask. And if you really want to unload, feel free to PM me if you so desire.

Were you always crazy or did your mother drop you on your head?

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/55 "2015-11-05T00:09:23Z")

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> [@Tithonus](#):
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> I can tell a poster that he’s a suppurating buboe on the anus of humanity, but I can’t tell the same poster to fuck off.
> 
> I can call a poster a deadbrained chromosomal catastrophe who’s about half as much use as Anne Frank’s drum kit, but I can’t call him a cunt.

Quite right old chap. We have standards here you know.  
Frankly I support the status quo. If you are going to insult somebody, at least make it interesting.

ETA:

> [@Tithonus](#):
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> I thought the whole damn point of the Pit was to tell people who needed to fuck off to fuck the fuck off.

This is a common misconception. The point of the pit is to have a safety valve for posters who have a beef with one another. This permits the remainder of the board to remain the bastion of civility and sweet logic that it is today.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/56 "2015-11-05T00:15:46Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> Were you always crazy or did your mother drop you on your head?

[Moderating]  
That’s a formal warning for insults in ATMB.  
[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/57 "2015-11-05T00:19:31Z")

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I thought it was the pit thread.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/58 "2015-11-05T02:57:45Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> I thought it was the pit thread.

Aaaaand that’s the problem of wrangling over a pit thread in an ATMB thread. The Pit-ness sloshes over and contaminates everything.

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/59 "2015-11-05T03:12:00Z")

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Yes, it is a Pity.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/telling-someone-in-the-pit-to-fuck-off/736517/60 "2015-11-05T05:07:00Z")

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> [@GrandWino](#):
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> Nobody here is confused about what the phrase “fuck off” means.

Apparently **Muffin** was.

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