# Temporary tax still temporary after almost 70 years **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2005, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465 "2005-07-14T03:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/81 "2005-07-18T04:25:36Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > You use public roads? Libraries? Did you attend a private school? > > Who the hell’s going to pay for all this-the tax fairy? Specifically? How about using the taxes collected for roads, libraries, and private schools. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/82 "2005-07-18T11:46:09Z")
> [@](#): > > _originally posted by_ **catsix** > Well, maybe if I were a 20something year old unemployed virgin with bad teeth who was afraid to leave Mommy and Daddy’s house, I’d hate myself. > … > Because instead of answering the question about your employment status and exactly what room you have to tell other people about their duty to pay taxes you decided to break out the ad hominems… > [@](#): > > _originally posted by_ **Guinastasia** > As opposed to being a hardliving cunt who brags about being fucked by multiple guys at the same time? Who covers the mirrors rather than look at herself? > > So tell me, do your guns have a built in vibrator or something? Not that yowling catfights can’t be entertaining and all, but you two need to settle down. Neither of you have made it quite to jerkdom yet but you’re both well into flaming idiot territory. Sheesh, how many times must we remind people that posting personal details on a message board can be a really lousy idea? Veb Who ain’t about to give anybody but the IRS info from her W2 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/83 "2005-07-18T12:32:34Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > As opposed to being a hardliving cunt who brags about being fucked by multiple guys at the same time? You say this as though it were a bad thing. 😃 **Guin** , I thought you were dead against the idea of people minding other people’s sex lives for them? \<_snips out a few more witticisms that would only fuel the flames, and likely earn him a slap on the wrist from **Veb** , if no worse_\> ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/84 "2005-07-18T12:46:03Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > \<_snips out a few more witticisms that would only fuel the flames, and likely earn him a slap on the wrist from **Veb** , if no worse_\> Nah, you’re cool, **Malacandra**. I’m always amazed, though, when people spread their personal lives across the internet but get huffy when the info is used against them, fairly or unfairly. Don’t want your personal life to be grist for anybody and everybody to use? _Then don’t post it in the first place._. That, and the argument that proof of employment and income must be provided before total strangers will condescend to listen. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/85 "2005-07-18T13:02:12Z")
Wahey! **Veb** says I’m cool! 🆒 I feel a sig line coming on! 😃 Does this mean I can do the gag about the cage match now? ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/86 "2005-07-18T13:18:41Z")
The last thread about cagers turned out to be surreally interesting. I say Go for it! ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/87 "2005-07-18T13:53:22Z")
Bravo, **Catsix**. You never said anything that implied you are against **all** taxes. Clearly you were only speaking about certain stupid taxes like the OP. **Guin** is wrong in her interpretation of your posts. Also, she’s out of line with her insults towards you. Most importantly, she needs to shut the fuck up about taxes if she herself isn’t paying them. I don’t have children, so I would never go into a child related thread and start telling everyone that I know more about parenting than them. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/88 "2005-07-18T14:07:14Z")
**Veb** , I learned my lesson, yes, and I totally agree I brought it on myself, which is why I haven’t mentioned much lately. That being said, I’m tired of having the same shit thrown back in my face, over and over and over. I mean, Jesus Christ, get some new material. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/89 "2005-07-18T14:17:04Z")
So does any PA doper actually drive over the border to get cheeper/less taxed booze? ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/90 "2005-07-18T15:02:09Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **Veb** , I learned my lesson, yes, and I totally agree I brought it on myself, which is why I haven’t mentioned much lately. > > That being said, I’m tired of having the same shit thrown back in my face, over and over and over. I mean, Jesus Christ, get some new material. _rereads post 56 and finds that last sentence fucking hilarious_. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2005, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/91 "2005-07-18T15:14:39Z")
Sorry **Veb**. I didn’t mean it to sound as if I wanted her to post a W2, just to say either she has a job or she doesn’t. I wouldn’t expect anybody to post actual proof of income on a web forum. ---
**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/92 "2005-07-19T02:53:40Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > Nah, you’re cool, **Malacandra**. > > I’m always amazed, though, when people spread their personal lives across the internet but get huffy when the info is used against them, fairly or unfairly. Don’t want your personal life to be grist for anybody and everybody to use? _Then don’t post it in the first place._. > > That, and the argument that proof of employment and income must be provided before total strangers will condescend to listen. Reading this made me feel warm and happy in my bathing suit area. ---
**Author:** ![psycat90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@psycat90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psycat90)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/93 "2005-07-19T03:57:31Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > So does any PA doper actually drive over the border to get cheeper/less taxed booze? If they do, I suspect they’d keep it to themselves, since it’s illegal. ---
**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/94 "2005-07-19T04:01:14Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > That, and the argument that proof of employment and income must be provided before total strangers will condescend to listen. You don’t need to have a job in order to spout off about taxes. However, it may help to have a job if you expect your views on taxes to be taken seriously. An important distinction. ---
**Author:** ![grey\_ideas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dfb087/32.png) [@grey\_ideas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grey_ideas)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/95 "2005-07-19T11:24:38Z")
> [@continuity eror](#): > > You don’t need to have a job in order to spout off about taxes. However, it may help to have a job if you expect your views on taxes to be taken seriously. An important distinction. But, out of curiosity, does this mean that someone who is in a higher tax bracket gets to taken even more seriously? It seems like an odd distinction to me, I certainly don’t mind someone who is unemployed discussing taxes provided they have something useful to contribute (even if it is only theoretical knowledge). I’m not going to discount someone’s view outright just because they aren’t paying taxes at the moment. grey\_ideas ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/96 "2005-07-19T11:42:00Z")
True, of course. Someone’s arguments on any given subject are either valid or they are not. It’s important to beware of _argumentum ad hominem_. That said, anyone (A) will resent someone else (B) telling them how the government ought to collect and spend A’s money, especially if B himself is contributing less, or nothing. It doesn’t disqualify B’s argument out of hand, but a little tact on B’s part probably doesn’t hurt. ---
**Author:** ![grey\_ideas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dfb087/32.png) [@grey\_ideas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grey_ideas)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/97 "2005-07-19T11:49:32Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > True, of course. Someone’s arguments on any given subject are either valid or they are not. It’s important to beware of _argumentum ad hominem_. That said, anyone (A) will resent someone else (B) telling them how the government ought to collect and spend A’s money, especially if B himself is contributing less, or nothing. It doesn’t disqualify B’s argument out of hand, but a little tact on B’s part probably doesn’t hurt. Certainly agree with all of that, a little tact never goes amiss. Just one thing to add however. I try (I don’t always succeed), to see myself from the other persons standpoint in these sort of arguments. There way be a time (although I hope not) that I am out of work, I would hope my view would not be discounted from discussions like this just because of my current state of employment and hence contribution to the tax fund. …I hope that made sense. grey\_ideas ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/98 "2005-07-19T13:42:16Z")
Since the tax under discussion is not an income tax but a sales tax, it wouldn’t matter is someone was employed or not. If they purchase liquor, they pay the tax. ---
**Author:** ![Kaspar\_Hauser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@Kaspar\_Hauser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaspar_Hauser)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/99 "2005-07-19T13:52:45Z")
> [@Hamadryad](#): > > Reading this made me feel warm and happy in my bathing suit area. Lane Bryant? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465/100 "2005-07-19T14:25:43Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Since the tax under discussion is not an income tax but a sales tax, it wouldn’t matter is someone was employed or not. If they purchase liquor, they pay the tax. Not really if they never earned the money in the first place. If someone gives me $100 to buy some stuff and some of it goes to sales taxes, it’s still free money. I can have an opinion on the best fitting tampon or what it’s like to be an Iraqi American in light of 9/11 but that opinion would be next to worthless. Someone, who for the most part, has never had to deal with the issues of paying taxes and how it affects ones life, shouldn’t be arguing about how taxes aren’t all that bad or whatever. Haj [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/temporary-tax-still-temporary-after-almost-70-years/312465.md?page=6)