# Tendency of pretty girls & women to congregate socially with other pretty girls **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 29, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249 "2015-08-29T03:17:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/21 "2015-08-29T13:05:11Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > I have this weird theory that women are actually people, and do people stuff like hanging out with people because they have stuff in common and get on well. Out there, I know, but I’m sticking with it. Hush now, stop telling the men-folk our secrets. Next thing you know, they’ll realise we’re sentient and literate too! Then what, huh?! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/22 "2015-08-29T13:16:29Z")
People of either gender tend to hang out with other people of similar age. And our society’s standards of feminine beauty tend toward youth. So a group of women will tend to have a similar level of beauty (as defined by our culture), because they have a similar level of youth. Standards for masculine aesthetics are less determined by age, and so this effect isn’t as pronounced for men. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/23 "2015-08-29T13:28:57Z")
\*Thank heaven for little girls Especially when they are fully grown! Thank heaven for little girls They take their spankings with their tears and moans! Their big, sad eyes so helpless and appealing One day will flash and make you spank them ‘till they’re squealin’\* – Maurice Chevalier ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/24 "2015-08-29T13:37:25Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Birds of a feather… This, I think. Attractive women probably have experiences in common. People who have experiences in common tend to enjoy each other’s company. It’s not necessarily a plot to exclude unattractive women from their midst, or, reciprocally, a standoffish attitude on the part of unattractive women such as avoiding airhead fluffballs or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/25 "2015-08-29T14:55:08Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Assuming it’s true, you may be considering this from the wrong viewpoint. > > Consider a women whose attractiveness is an 8. Why would she want to hang out with a group of 10’s where she’s the least attractive woman in the group? She’d probably prefer to hang out with a group of 6’s and be the most attractive woman in the group. I don’t judge my friend’s attractiveness on a scale, nor do I put any’thought in to how attractive I look in comparison. There are actually women who do this?:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/26 "2015-08-29T15:43:34Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > You definitely see this in beach, pool,or otherwise swimsuit pictures. You see these hot looking women in bikinis all in a group. > > But, that might be because they are 18-25 and still look pretty good. We all start wearing more clothes as we age and put on pounds. This. At 22, yeah, bikini photos would’ve been fine. Now? Bitch, please. I’m 45 with cellulite and stretch marks. Pass the frackin’ pizza and pour me another glass of wine. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/27 "2015-08-29T15:45:13Z")
> [@PookahMacPhellimey](#): > > I am pretty and fat. So how does this work for me? You and I are friendless. Let’s start a club. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/28 "2015-08-29T16:11:23Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > This. At 22, yeah, bikini photos would’ve been fine. Now? Bitch, please. I’m 45 with cellulite and stretch marks. Pass the frackin’ pizza and pour me another glass of wine. There’s another thing the OP may be missing. A lot of photos are taken from the cleavage-up. Selfies are all about the head, not the whole body. He may be seeing attractive faces, but if the camera were to pan out more, he might feel differently about the whole package. Also, people who aren’t photogenic tend NOT to be the ones scrambling to get into a shot. I’d say this is especially true if there are a bunch of pretty girls already in the scene. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/29 "2015-08-29T18:34:40Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > This, I think. Attractive women probably have experiences in common. People who have experiences in common tend to enjoy each other’s company. It’s not necessarily a plot to exclude unattractive women from their midst, or, reciprocally, a standoffish attitude on the part of unattractive women such as avoiding airhead fluffballs or whatever. That’s an interesting insight. I think there may be something to your hypothesis. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/30 "2015-08-29T18:57:15Z")
> [@PookahMacPhellimey](#): > > I am pretty and fat. So how does this work for me? Heh. You really want to go there? Alright. While it’s great that you have such self-confidence, and there is certainly a sub-demographic of straight males who may find overweight women more attractive than non (speaking _purely_ from a physical attractiveness standpoint, I’m not at all discounting the fact that people have other qualities that can make them attractive), the vast majority would consider not being overweight as a prerequisite to finding a woman really physically attractive / i.e. “pretty”. So to most those groups are, for the most part, mutually exclusive (of course, everyone will set the bar at how much is “too” fat somewhere different). Our culture has worshipped the female form for a long time so this should not come as an earth-shattering observation. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/31 "2015-08-29T19:13:12Z")
Wine with pizza? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Fiveroptic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiveroptic/32/8257_2.png) [@Fiveroptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveroptic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/32 "2015-08-29T19:33:59Z")
Or, you know, it could just be that women who feel they aren’t a 6 or above stay out of the way of cameras because they know their pictures will be judged by shallow, sexist, assholes on the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/33 "2015-08-29T19:43:44Z")
> [@April\_R](#): > > I don’t judge my friend’s attractiveness on a scale, nor do I put any’thought in to how attractive I look in comparison. > > There are actually women who do this?:dubious: Wow, you really haven’t met many women. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/34 "2015-08-29T19:44:22Z")
The average emotional intelligence on this board is simply staggering. I’m going to just leave it at that. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/35 "2015-08-29T19:49:57Z")
> [@Fiveroptic](#): > > Or, you know, it could just be that women who feel they aren’t a 6 or above stay out of the way of cameras because they know their pictures will be judged by shallow, sexist, assholes on the Internet. Interesting possibility but not observed in social media practice. More plain girls and women cluster around for group selfies with their partying BFFs and girls night out female buds just like the more glam groups do, and with the same frequency. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/36 "2015-08-29T19:50:08Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > The average emotional intelligence on this board is simply staggering. I’m going to just leave it at that. Oh no, please do expand (partly because I genuinely have no idea what this comment is supposed to mean and what it’s specifically in response to, but also partly because I feel like whatever it does mean, you believe your “emotional intelligence” is much higher than others so your thoughts would be very enlightening to us all). ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/37 "2015-08-29T20:01:18Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Oh no, please do expand (partly because I genuinely have no idea what this comment is supposed to mean and what it’s specifically in response to, but also partly because I feel like whatever it does mean, you believe your “emotional intelligence” is much higher than others so your thoughts would be very enlightening to us all). As much as I like to be enlightening, I’ve been down this road too many times before. In threads like this one, a bunch of guys who find it difficult relate to women (or have virtually no experience in romantic relationships) spend a lot of time explaining to women what women are really like. As if we were, say, fireflies. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/38 "2015-08-29T20:16:55Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > As much as I like to be enlightening, I’ve been down this road too many times before. In threads like this one, a bunch of guys who find it difficult relate to women (or have virtually no experience in romantic relationships) spend a lot of time explaining to women what women are really like. As if we were, say, fireflies. The weird thing is that I don’t see where anyone in this thread has said they find it difficult to relate to women or that they have virtually no experience in romantic relationships, so you’re making a big and likely fallacious assumption off the bat. But I do see at least one self-avowed woman who is mind-bogglingly clueless: **April R** , who in post #25 expressed being absolutely perplexed by the thought that _there are women who judge each other’s attractiveness and possibly even compare themselves to other women_. While I may not be a woman myself, I think it’s abundantly clear to anyone who has lived on Earth for more than a few minutes and observed any women that such behavior is in fact, rather common. ---
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/39 "2015-08-29T21:41:15Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > The weird thing is that I don’t see where anyone in this thread has said they find it difficult to relate to women or that they have virtually no experience in romantic relationships, so you’re making a big and likely fallacious assumption off the bat. But I do see at least one self-avowed woman who is mind-bogglingly clueless: **April R** , who in post #25 expressed being absolutely perplexed by the thought that _there are women who judge each other’s attractiveness and possibly even compare themselves to other women_. While I may not be a woman myself, I think it’s abundantly clear to anyone who has lived on Earth for more than a few minutes and observed any women that such behavior is in fact, rather common. Your reading comprehension skills suck. I never said women don’t compare themselves to each other. I said I don’t rate women on a scale AND I don’t consider a woman’s attractiveness as a factor in wether I hang out with her or not. I don’t think most women do either. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249/40 "2015-08-29T21:42:55Z")
> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#): > > Hush now, stop telling the men-folk our secrets. Next thing you know, they’ll realise we’re sentient and literate too! Then what, huh?! I dunno, you giggle and do each other’s hair? It’s not like I have a Doctorate in Womenology like **Rigamarole**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tendency-of-pretty-girls-women-to-congregate-socially-with-other-pretty-girls/729249.md?page=3)