# Tenet is Resigning

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 3, 2004, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451 "2004-06-03T14:44:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/1 "2004-06-03T14:44:11Z")

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He says it is for personal reasons.

What effect will this have on the elections? Who do you expect will replace him?

Cite available on request.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/2 "2004-06-03T14:46:45Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> He says it is for personal reasons.
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> What effect will this have on the elections? Who do you expect will replace him?

I just saw; this is pretty unexpected, isn’t it? No idea what’ll happen with it. The next couple days might be interesting.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/3 "2004-06-03T14:51:03Z")

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The Chalabi/Iran issue might have been the final straw.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/4 "2004-06-03T14:53:17Z")

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Wow. Intelligence failures on 9/11 _and_ Iraq’s WMDs weren’t enough to sink Tenet. What was? And will we find out?

Tenet has certainly been a useful (and willing) person to blame things on for the Bush admin. What was the last straw that caused the Bush admin to heave him over the side?

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/5 "2004-06-03T14:54:55Z")

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Sure they’re personal reasons. Such as the fact that he “personally” endorsed Chalabi, who turned out to be a spy…

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/6 "2004-06-03T14:56:01Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Who do you expect will replace him?

He’s tanned, rested, ready, and experienced. George H. W. Bush

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/7 "2004-06-03T14:56:10Z")

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“Personal reasons,” eh? Is that the new “wanted to spend more time with his family”?

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**Author:** ![Cronos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@Cronos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cronos1)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/8 "2004-06-03T14:57:34Z")

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Good riddance. Now lets hope Rumsfeld, Cheney and Rice follow suit.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/9 "2004-06-03T14:58:30Z")

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Yup. Personal reasons.

And in other news, monkeys just flew outta my butt…

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/10 "2004-06-03T15:02:57Z")

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> [@Evil One](#):
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> The Chalabi/Iran issue might have been the final straw.

Then perhaps we’re seeing a replay of the “it’s all my (Tenet’s) fault GW lied in the SOTU speech” event of a few months ago. Which would mean we should expect some damning evidence of Chalabi’s malfeasance (more than the hints we’ve seen to date) to come to light fairly soon, to be conveniently pinned on Tenet.

To answer the OP, the effect on the elections will be seen by a) how damning those revelations are (if they come) and b) how well the “Tenet did it!” story can be sold.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/11 "2004-06-03T15:05:22Z")

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OTOH, I see today that the POTUS has retained council in the Plame case, which involves the felonious outing of a CIA operative – someone who worked for Tenet – so you have to wonder if the two events are connected.

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/12 "2004-06-03T15:06:15Z")

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Holy horse hockey.

I hope this really is for “personal reasons.” Cuz if it isn’t, something huge is about to blow.

[aside] **Kalhoun** , you really gotta see your proctologist.[/aside]

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/13 "2004-06-03T15:10:58Z")

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> [@Cluricaun](#):
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> Sure they’re personal reasons. Such as the fact that he “personally” endorsed Chalabi, who turned out to be a spy…

He did? Do you have a citation for this support?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/14 "2004-06-03T15:15:26Z")

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As for his replacement, it looks like his immediate replacement will be [John McLaughlin](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=513&e=1&u=/ap/20040603/ap_on_go_ot/tenet_resigns).

Daniel

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/15 "2004-06-03T15:17:05Z")

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> [@BJMoose](#):
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> I hope this really is for “personal reasons.” Cuz if it isn’t, something huge is about to blow.

Yes, I think that’s the case. If for no other reason than that the story is coming out at this time. The traditional time to announce bad news is Friday afternoon, right at the deadline for the evening news, so that only the admin’s spin will be heard and reporters can’t follow up until Monday, at which point either the “good” story is already out there or everyone had forgotten and we’re in the next news cycle. This story coming out on a Thursday morning seems decidedly odd, and indicates that it’s happening ahead of events that are not in control of the administration.

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/16 "2004-06-03T15:19:55Z")

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[Associated Press via _USA Today_](http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-06-03-tenet_x.htm)  
Nothing on the CIA website yet.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/17 "2004-06-03T15:35:27Z")

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Do we know if Tenet has testified to the Plame grand jury, and, if so, when?

I’m googling and not finding anything, by I have some vague memory of reading something to this effect in the last couple of weeks.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/18 "2004-06-03T15:38:17Z")

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On the gripping hand, perhaps the Bush admin has decided that [Al Gore isn’t insane](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5068417/). 😉

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/19 "2004-06-03T15:41:24Z")

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Am I right in remembering that Tenet is the one who told Bush that the case for Iraqi WMD was a “slam dunk”? At least, according to (IIRC) Woodward?

Thanks for the link, **Left Hand of Dorkness**. This _is_ pretty unexpected. And it makes me wonder if Rumsfeld might be next. I didn’t expect Tenet to resign, although he should; I didn’t expect Rumsfeld to resign, although he should.

Or maybe Powell will be next to leave. Although that is less likely.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tenet-is-resigning/248451/20 "2004-06-03T15:51:07Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> OTOH, I see today that the POTUS has retained council in the Plame case, which involves the felonious outing of a CIA operative – someone who worked for Tenet – so you have to wonder if the two events are connected.

I haven’t seen anything to the effect that Bush actually retained outside council; only that he had consulted with an outside lawyer.

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