# Terminator 2 tries too hard to be funny at the wrong times

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2-tries-too-hard-to-be-funny-at-the-wrong-times/592017>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 9, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2-tries-too-hard-to-be-funny-at-the-wrong-times/592017 "2011-08-09T01:24:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2-tries-too-hard-to-be-funny-at-the-wrong-times/592017/21 "2011-08-11T17:40:17Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> yeah but you just can’t go around stealing.

Pretty sure you can’t just go killing people.

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**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2-tries-too-hard-to-be-funny-at-the-wrong-times/592017/22 "2011-08-11T20:01:39Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> Pretty sure you can’t just go killing people.

Sure you can. You just _shouldn’t._

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**Author:** ![Roadfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@Roadfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roadfood)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2-tries-too-hard-to-be-funny-at-the-wrong-times/592017/23 "2011-08-11T20:37:01Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> I just don’t get where John Connor draws the line at. It’s perfectly fine to steal $300, but killing people is going too far (even if, by killing a few people now, you can prevent a war which would cause billions of deaths later).

Whoa, is this supposed to be serious? You actually don’t see the line between stealing and killing? I thought that was a totally believable aspect to John’s character. Kids tend to have a less well-developed ethical system around property. Stealing? A few hundred bucks? From people who probably won’t even miss it? (Or so the teenage rationalizations go).

But killing? Even for a supposedly good cause? Even young children know that that’s just wrong, period.

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2-tries-too-hard-to-be-funny-at-the-wrong-times/592017/24 "2011-08-11T20:38:24Z")

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Stealing and killing are both wrong. I just thought John was a bad kid for being a thief.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2-tries-too-hard-to-be-funny-at-the-wrong-times/592017/25 "2011-08-11T20:42:55Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> Stealing and killing are both wrong. I just thought John was a bad kid for being a thief.

And for talking back at his foster parents.

Edit: It’s interesting that in T2, the new T-1000 didn’t know enough about human physiology to detect when he was being lied to: T-1000 asks Johns friend if he had seen this kid (showing him a picture of Conner), and the kid answers no.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2-tries-too-hard-to-be-funny-at-the-wrong-times/592017/26 "2011-08-11T22:24:55Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> They stuck in Arnold saying “I’ll be back” in a lame way. It was way cooler in Terminator 1. Even other of Arnold movies did the line better. But the biggest offender is when the Terminator says “I need a vacation.” That is totally a line Arnold would say, but it makes no sense for the Terminator to say it then.

He’s just had the shit kicked out of him by the T1000; he’s missing parts and losing an eye. Perfect time to say it.

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