# Terminator 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 17, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2/557398 "2010-10-17T02:49:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2/557398/81 "2010-10-23T15:59:55Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Fanwank : presumably, Arnold could spot him anyway with that analyzing red vision of his, so T-1000 goes for the “intimidate the fleshbags into uselessness” tac instead. I’m not sure if it counts for anything but on The Sarah Connor Chronicles a T-888 fails to recognize a T-1001. He shoots the crap out of her thinking she’s human and dies about two seconds later when she stabs into him and an electrical box at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2/557398/82 "2010-10-23T21:19:38Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > I’m not sure if it counts for anything but on The Sarah Connor Chronicles a T-888 fails to recognize a T-1001. He shoots the crap out of her thinking she’s human and dies about two seconds later when she stabs into him and an electrical box at the same time. I’m not sure that’s failure to recognize so much as it is a “what the hell else is he going to do?” sort of thing. Projectile weapons seem to tbe the only thing that slow those guys down. As Arnie learned, you definitely do NOT want to engage one hand to hand. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2/557398/83 "2010-10-24T02:52:47Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > That sounds logical, but it would have failed because the T-800 would have made contact at the mall. Without the initial gun battle, it’s unclear if John would have bought that the T-800 was there to protect him, but the T-800 would have just grabbed him and took him out of the city by force. > > And the T-1000 had reason to suspect this might happen, since John’s foster parents mention that “some big guy” (or words to that effect) had been by the house earlier looking for John. Way I see it, John would run like hell from T-800 at the mall, probably at some point try to get home for supplies and warn the foster dicks, and them bam, the floor kills him. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2/557398/84 "2010-10-24T22:03:34Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > and them bam, the floor kills him. Both times that happened in my family, it was devastating. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2/557398/85 "2010-10-25T09:57:07Z")
> [@crazyjoe](#): > > I’m not sure that’s failure to recognize so much as it is a “what the hell else is he going to do?” sort of thing. Projectile weapons seem to tbe the only thing that slow those guys down. As Arnie learned, you definitely do NOT want to engage one hand to hand. The T-888 knew who she was (even asked her her name before busting caps) but not what she was. If he knew he was going up against a T-1001 he would have brought heavier artillery. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2/557398/86 "2010-10-25T14:32:22Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > And I guess he is more vulnerable in mid-morph, hence telling the pilot to get out of the helicopter instead of expending the energy to kill him. Or maybe the T-1000 realized he could fly faster without the pilot’s weight and taking the time to dump his body would waste precious seconds. I get that the T-1000 isn’t used to its full (and rather awesome) potential, but when is any sci-fi concept? The reason for the “Get out” line to the helicopter pilot was to mimic the “Get out” line to the truck driver from “Terminator”. Got huge laughs & cheers in the theater. Let’s not let the fanwanking get out of hand. ---
**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2/557398/87 "2010-10-25T15:36:46Z")
> [@Number](#): > > It’s not a plot point in the theatrical release; that sequence, filmed with Linda Hamilton’s twin sister, is a deleted scene. Ah. I was wondering what the hell everyone was talking about. _What switch?_ ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2/557398/88 "2010-10-25T17:40:40Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > The reason for the “Get out” line to the helicopter pilot was to mimic the “Get out” line to the truck driver from “Terminator”. Got huge laughs & cheers in the theater. Let’s not let the fanwanking get out of hand. Don’t splash your messy reality on my fanwanking! Well, DUH, it was a reference to the first movie. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2/557398/89 "2010-10-25T17:52:57Z")
> [@toadspittle](#): > > Ah. I was wondering what the hell everyone was talking about. _What switch?_ The extended version has a number of deleted scenes, but I have to admit, none of them are _necessary_ to the plot and may even slow it down or add more confusion. [YouTube partial compilation](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZNE637BeEI), starting with the “switch” scene, but also including a pointless (albeit mildly amusing) scene where Arnie tries to learn to smile and the T-1000 suffering post-freeze “glitches”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-2/557398.md?page=4)