# Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2 Part 2 thread \[open spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 13, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694 "2009-02-13T15:53:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/61 "2009-02-28T21:58:59Z")
> [@Xan](#): > > The guy who Sarah shot is the the guy with the daughter. Sorry - you have that backwards - the one with the daughter, the daughter and mom knew he was alive. The woman whom Sarah befriended (the bald headed ones wife, who had the recording of the struggle with Sarah) was sure he was dead. I go back to my earlier request - lets just pretend this train wreck of an episode never happened. ---
**Author:** ![Xan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/62 "2009-02-28T22:10:11Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I go back to my earlier request - lets just pretend this train wreck of an episode never happened. Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/63 "2009-02-28T22:57:03Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Yep - and JH will likely think the same thing - I’m better than my creator - and then we have Terminator vs. Terminator - and we all lose! > > BTW, can we just pretend this most recent episode (02-27) never aired? I can’t think of one redeemable bit out of it. Why do I keep forgetting this show is on Fridays? Argh. Oh, and I haven’t really liked this second season nearly as much. From what you’ve said, I get the feeling it’s not worth downloading…but I guess I’ll have to. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/64 "2009-03-01T04:31:24Z")
Okay, soooo… Weaver destroys a whole HK facility for a breach of security, and really wants to finish the missing guy. Missing guy has an HK. Got away. Other guy who kidnaps Sarah is also a missing guy, who an “overseas” interest fixed up, is paying, and sent after Sarah. He’s not working for Weaver, I assume? Who is the overseas interest who apparently doesn’t work with Weaver but sure knows a lot about what she’s doing and HKs? I’m trying to distill a story out of this, because these last few episodes have sucked monkey turd. “Remember I told you something strange is going on?” ::Cameron walks by in her underwear for no reason:: Yes, something strange is going on. In your head. Who is it with some naughty thoughts about Cameron? ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/65 "2009-03-01T12:50:27Z")
Y’know, I’m increasingly getting the impression that Sarah Connor isn’t nearly as smart, tough, or mentally well-adjusted as she _thinks_ she is. Kinda like the show itself, come t’think of it. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/66 "2009-03-01T13:01:16Z")
i don’t think anyone, including herself and her son, thinks she’s mentally well-adjusted. as for tough… if chewing through your veins just to lubricate your cuffs isn’t tough, i don’t know what is. this show is about Sarah Connor after all, so it’s nice to see them spending them fleshing out the titular character. ---
**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/67 "2009-03-01T17:36:25Z")
Last season this was my favorite show on tv. Now it’s not. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/68 "2009-03-01T17:42:27Z")
> [@wonderlust](#): > > Last season this was my favorite show on tv. Now it’s not. I feel your pain. My main reason to watch these days is Cameron. But I have to say that after seeing [Lena Headey](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0372176/)as the queen in _300_, even though I wasn’t whelmed with the movie itself, I have had more respect for her performance. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/69 "2009-03-01T19:16:38Z")
This season, while not as good as the first, is still pretty cool. Last episode, however, SUCKED. I’m kind of getting the impression that Weaver is working for the Future Connors. Or maybe a robots and humans can coexist group. Either way, she doesn’t seem to be Skynet. And, asides from developing the AI, her missions seem to parallel those of the Connor’s. It should be interesting to see how this season develops. Oh and in case you’re wondering, Sarah is a woman. If I was to dream of Cameron, she wouldn’t be wearing a bra. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/70 "2009-03-01T19:17:52Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > I feel your pain. My main reason to watch these days is Cameron. But I have to say that after seeing [Lena Headey](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0372176/)as the queen in _300_, even though I wasn’t whelmed with the movie itself, I have had more respect for her performance. Sarah is tough, and it really isn’t too important if she’s as smart, blah blah blah as she thinks she is. The thing is, nothing is making sense these last few episodes. HK factory (maybe). Gets blown up because of security. However, there is such a huge security breach that the factory’s two hired killers are NOT found, worried about, or taken care of. But Weaver has one incompetent P.I. chasing one of the two. Again, seems like weirdness for weirdness sake (IE. the dreaming episode) with little sense or plot movement behind them. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/71 "2009-03-02T01:38:20Z")
> [@shijinn](#): > > as for tough.. if chewing through your veins just to lubricate your cuffs isn’t tough, i don’t know what is. Different kind of “tough.” If you can chew through your own veins without a second thought, but you keep flipping out or hesitating when it comes to doing something brutal in cold blood when the world might depend on it, it’s simple masochism. Not to say that the character is _necessarily_ being badly executed—if the creators are doing it _on purpose_, you have an interesting, rounded character. If they _aren’t_, it just becomes a flawed attempt at a “superwoman.” ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/72 "2009-03-02T08:04:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Again, seems like weirdness for weirdness sake (IE. the dreaming episode) with little sense or plot movement behind them. I totally agree. Furthermore, weirdness doesn’t necessarily make something good or even interesting. I saw this a lot in high school. “Wow that’s so deep yo, it’s the greatest song ever” “What is it about?” “I have no idea but that’s what makes it great” Well no it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/73 "2009-03-05T23:07:36Z")
Just got around to watching this episode, and I agree that it was pretty poor. But I don’t think the second season has been bad, overall. In fact, I think the first episodes of the second season were the best the show has been, although it’s hit a rough patch the last few. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/74 "2009-03-07T04:05:27Z")
Girlfight! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/75 "2009-03-07T06:05:12Z")
Wow - now _that_ is dark. Very well-done episode, I thought - gave a great sense of how very, very claustrophobic it must have felt to be Riley. Reminded me of a mob movie, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/76 "2009-03-07T06:53:18Z")
An excellent episode that makes up for recent failings. They did a good job filling out Riley’s character over the season, and making you feel for her. Now we HAVE to keep watching until Jesse gets what is coming to her. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/77 "2009-03-07T07:05:45Z")
Yes, much more fulfilling ep than the last few. When the show is good, it’s pretty good. I just have to wonder who is writing some of these eps. Nice touch Derek wondering what Jesse’s apocalypse date was. But… Nice nerfing of Derek by sending him out on “a mission” so he’ll be of no use. I guess they watch Hiro on Heroes. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/78 "2009-03-07T07:30:28Z")
Is Jesse working for Skynet? “Turn him against her”, and all that. Summer is still teh hawt, but Cameron is getting seriously creepy. And a bit human, in not knowing what to do with Riley. Oh, and thank gawd they got back on track after the last few abominations. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/79 "2009-03-07T09:45:35Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > Is Jesse working for Skynet? “Turn him against her”, and all that. She thinks exposure to Cameron is going to have negative effects on him, distort his thinking, etc. I think she’s from a faction of the resistance that disagreed with sending back Cameron. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694/80 "2009-03-07T10:07:24Z")
Incidentally, there’s a whole lot about the Riley story that doesn’t make sense, if I recall correctly. Wasn’t she with them when they killed that terminator in Mexico? Didn’t she see that he was a terminator? And they knew it. Now she understood what that was because she was the from the future, but from the Connors’ perspective she witnessed something mind blowing. At the end of the episode she seemed to be in shock - and then boom, everything is back to normal. Wouldn’t they have had to explain to her what she saw? How did they go back to being so casual? In any case, Sarah confronts John in this episode and tells him about how the “guidance counselor” knew about mexico, about her screaming fit - and John’s response is “I didn’t tell her anything.” - while it would be troubling that she was talking to other people about it, it’s not as though the only way she could know these things is if John told her, right? Maybe I’m misremembering how much she witnessed in Mexico. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-season-2-part-2-thread-open-spoilers/485694.md?page=5)